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Miami Show

Yesterday, at work, I was frantically trying to help students finish a project while planning for next week when I got a twitter notification from Duran Duran.  Normally, I take the time to look at the tweet but I just couldn’t right then.  I took note that something was happening in Duranland and that I should look more closely later.  I figured that was cool since Rhonda would send me a text if it was something that I had to immediately respond to.  Needless to say, later meant today.  Ouch.

So what was the big news?  Duran Duran is going to be performing in Miami Beach on Saturday, December 9th.  Here’s the full press release on SiriusXM’s blog:

GRAMMY Award-winning, iconic British band Duran Duran will perform a special invitation-only show for SiriusXM on Saturday, December 9 at the Faena Theater in Miami Beach.

The exclusive performance for SiriusXM will feature Duran Duran playing signature music from throughout their career, including songs from their most recent, Top 10 charting studio album, Paper Gods.

This very special performance for SiriusXM coincides with 2017’s Art Basel in Miami Beach, the world-renowned premier art show and gathering for modern and contemporary art.  It will also be the penultimate show on the band’s two-year Paper Gods World Tour before they return to the studio in January 2018.

“As long-time fans of SiriusXM, we are really looking forward to performing this special show at such a beautiful and intimate venue in Miami,” remarked Duran Duran’s John Taylor. “It’s going to be an up close and personal affair, a truly one-of-a-kind evening, and we look forward to getting to know everyone who attends.”

The private performance will air live on Saturday, December 9 via satellite on The Pulse (Ch. 15) and 1st Wave (Ch. 33) and through the SiriusXM app on smartphones and other connected devices, as well as online at http://www.siriusxm.com.

SiriusXM subscribers since November 1, 2017, can enter for the chance to win a trip to Miami including airfare, hotel stay and a pair of tickets to the show!  See Official Rules for complete details at siriusxm.com/DuranDuran

For more information on Duran Duran, visit www.duranduran.com.

Well then.  Let’s dive into this piece of news, shall we?  So, this show will coincide with a contemporary art show.  That’s cool.  John Taylor also made it sound like a pretty special show by saying things like “up close and personal affair,” “one-of-a-kind evening,” and “getting to know everyone who attends.”  Well then again.

Here’s the catch.  It is private performance.  That doesn’t mean that all hope is lost for Duranies.  First of all, SiriusXM subscribers have a chance to win a contest for airfare, hotel and a pair of tickets.  That’s super cool, but the fine print says that the subscribers must have been subscribed before November 1st.  While I’m sure that bothers lots of people who wanted a chance for that prize who weren’t subscribers, I can appreciate Sirius wanting to reward their members.  That said, if you are a member with DuranDuranMusic, you also have a chance to attend this show.  According to the site:  “If you are a member in good standing and can ATTEND THE SHOW (so check on travel arrangements BEFORE you enter) then email DDVIP@magusentertainment.com with “SIRIUS MIAMI” in the subject line with your DD VIP Username in the email. FOUR winners will be chosen at random to attend the show with a guest. The Duran Duran VIP Fan Community is providing tickets only.”  Last but not least, the show will be aired live on SiriusXM channels, The Pulse and First Wave.

I want to wish everyone who enters either the Sirius contest or the DDM contest good luck!  Then, I will be super excited to hear how the show and the experience goes for everyone who gets to go.  I, for one, will be at home, grading, lesson planning, preparing Christmas gifts, etc.  On top of that, I’ll be getting ready to go to the show in Vegas.  I, for one, feel VERY lucky that I get to see a Duran show at all this winter.  So, I’ll be the cheerleader for all the Duranies who are trying to get to this show.  I hope it is truly one-of-a-kind and very special.

-A

Contest Wishes

The other day I ran across a contest being offered by Depeche Mode.  While I am a fan of Depeche’s, I wouldn’t consider applying to any contest in order for big Depeche fans to do so.  That said, I still had to look at.  What were the requirements to participate?  What did people win?  Would this be good for Duran to do or are there better ideas out there?

Here is what the post on Facebook said:

Here’s your exclusive opportunity to WIN 2 tickets + a backstage meet & greet with Depeche Mode at any show on the upcoming European tour ==> http://bit.ly/2wBG2nZ 

The band will fly you and a friend to the European city of your choice, invite you to a pre-show meet & greet, and you’ll get a backstage tour! Hotel and airfare? That’s covered, too! It will be a once-in-a-lifetime musical experience you won’t want to miss.

To get entered to WIN, just donate $10 to charity: water using the link below. They’re raising funds to help provide clean and safe water to millions of people in need all over the world. So far, they’ve helped over 7 million gain access to drinking water which greatly affects health, education and other opportunities.

Hurry, you only have a limited amount of time to enter! Donate today ==> http://bit.ly/2wBG2nZ

Okay.  I like that in order to be entered into the contest, one must simply donate $10 to this charity.  It is a good way for a band/artist to raise money for something that they care about.  Duran could do this kind of thing for the Road to Recovery organization, for example.  What I am unsure of is how often people can donate.  If you donate $20, does that mean that you have two chances to win?  I would assume so, which makes sense.  If the band is trying to get as much money as possible for the cause, then this would encourage multiple donations.  On the same token, I hate when contests become all about who has the most money.  This means a lot of fans don’t really have a chance.  Another thing I like about the contest, though, is that it is not about having a skill or the ability to do something other than a simple donation.
As for what fans can win, this seems to me to be a pretty great package!  The winner gets two tickets to a show of the person’s choice, a backstage meet and greet, hotel and airfare.  I know that I would love a contest like this for Duran.  Then, I think back to that multiple donation equals multiple chances to win.  Wouldn’t it be better to give the fan who does not have the money to travel the win?  Yet, if this contest is done with the idea being that the more money spent equals the more likelihood of a win, that takes those fans out of the picture.
I just think it would be nice once in awhile for fans who don’t have many opportunities because of their financial situation to be able to have a chance.  I know that there Duranies, for example, who have won contests, auctions, etc. because they are willing and able to do so.  I don’t criticize them.  Good for them.  After all, if I had more money, I would do the same.  I do know, though, that there are a lot of fans who don’t get much or don’t get to do much because of their circumstances.  Some people reading this might say that we have gotten to do a lot, which is very true.  We have flown for shows, for example.  Does it mean that I wouldn’t want an opportunity?  That I think I should sacrifice myself to give others a chance?  Probably, I should.  In reality, though, I would want to win if Duran offered something like this.  I guess, I just think there should be a limit as to how much/how many times people could enter the contest.  I like the idea of a more even playing field where everyone has the same chance.  I would also hope that for this contest, serious Depeche fans are donating to have a chance.  I wouldn’t want people who just like Depeche to win. I would want someone who loves Depeche to win.  Likewise, if Duran did something like this, I would hope it would go to a Duranie and not someone who just saw the post and thought it would be cool.
What do the rest of you think?  Is this a contest that Duran should mirror?  What do you think of the winnings?  What do you think about how people enter it?  If you were to design a contest for Duran, what would it look like?
-A

Duran Duran Pumpkin Carving Contest Voting!

Happy Halloween everyone!!!  This year, we decided it would be fun to do a little pumpkin carving contest!  Of course, it had to be Duran Duran themed/inspired!  We had a number of people submit pictures of their carved pumpkins and now is the time that we can all vote on the best one!  The winner gets more than just our praise!  The creator of the best Duran inspired carved pumpkin gets a PunkMasters t-shirt of her choosing!! We cannot thank Patty enough for offering up a t-shirt for this!  It is super cool of her!!

Now, let’s get to the vote!  Poll will be open for a full 24 hours and winner will be announced tomorrow!  Good luck to everyone!!

I’m editing this post to include enlarged pictures of all the pumpkins before people vote!  Apparently, our polling toll does not allow for people to click to enlarge.  Instead, it counts the clicking as voting!

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Now, VOTE!

Duran Duran Pumpkin Carving Contest!

It’s time for a contest!!!

It has been a long time since we’ve run a contest here on the blog, so Amanda and I decided to try something crazy.  So today we are excitedly announcing:

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  • Get yourself a pumpkin.
  • Carve it with your very best, and most creative Duran-inspired design. This design can be ANYTHING having to do with Duran Duran, including but not limited to Paper Gods!
  • Send us a picture, including your REAL NAME, to our GMAIL (dailyduranie(at)gmail(dot)com) by 11:59pm PDT on Friday, October 30.
  • Please do NOT submit photos on Facebook or Twitter – they cannot be accepted that way.
  • Pumpkins MUST be carved (painting is great but you have to carve too), and the pumpkins also have to be real. (no fake pumpkins, that way the same pumpkin cannot be used from year to year!!)
  • Subscribe to get Daily Duranie by mail here, on Facebook and on Twitter!!
  • HAVE FUN!!!

Photos will be posted and voted upon by all of YOU here on the blog on Halloween.  The pumpkin with the most votes wins, and will be announced on November 1st!  (In the unlikely event of a tie, Rhonda’s youngest child will choose the winner. She’s very picky and cannot be bribed. Good luck with that!)

What do you win?!? Not ONLY bragging rights of being the most creative pumpkin carver in all of Duranland…absolutely not!! This time, our friend Patty Palazzo is donating a PunkMasters T-shirt of the winner’s choosing (one t-shirt, design and sizing to be decided by the winner).  We think the prize is pretty cool and thank Patty for her generosity!

So get started! It’s never too early and we’re never too old to carve pumpkins!!!  Amanda and I are looking forward to seeing some amazing designs from the fanbase, and you never know, you might even see a pumpkin or two from us along the way as well!  😉

Questions? Ask away in the comments and/or send us an email.

-R

Daily Duranie Guest Blog – Just Very

Today we’re very lucky to have a guest blog from none other than Fabiana Torras, who along with her cohorts from Argentina, were the winners of the TV Mania Franchise contest with their song “Just Very”.  Fabiana explains all about the franchise, and how they created such a brilliant entry!

By Fabiana Torras

The idea of the TV Mania franchise was to open things up for people to become TV Mania elsewhere, as explained on the TV Mania website. We figured people could be TV Mania by actually following our Manifesto and for fun, and actually adhering to certain principles that TV Mania has, like using samples of people talking along with rhythm boxes and sampled analog synthesizers, and then putting it all together.  So you just simply apply for a license to be TV Mania. So, If you´re in…Buenos Aires, and you wanna be TV Mania Buenos Aires, you have a look and then you apply and we give you an official TV Mania license. And then you can perform, send us music and video material, remixes, anything you like, and we put them up on the site. So we´re hoping that there´ll be a lot of TV Manias around the world”. – Nick Rhodes (answering my question at a TV Mania event in Second Life)

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In case you ever wondered what that TV Mania Manifesto was really all about…

That might just be the best answer I ever received to a question  I asked. As an extra bonus, it was Nick Rhodes who answered it. On that exact day, March 2nd 2013, not only did I receive an answer to what I wanted to know on the first of the Second Life TV Mania events; I also got the name of the future franchise Gerardo, Pablo and I would apply for: TV Mania Buenos Aires.  This was not an instant thing, though. We had to wait for six months for the franchise to be up and running, but at this point we all know Durantime affects side projects as well, don´t we?

Last September, as soon as the franchise was up, we applied and got the confirmation email with our name´s approval and the download links for the “Franchise Pack”, which included samples and music of the songs Euphoria, Beautiful Clothes, Paramount and I Wanna Make Films. We were in! All we needed now was an idea and time to make it happen.

Our first meeting was set on a Friday night after we all got off work, mostly to discuss what direction our project would take. To be honest, we didn´t actually meet face to face until there was a deadline; as much as we loved the idea of “being the band” and enter a contest with absolutely fantastic prizes for any Duranie, everyday life makes you so tired that sometimes if someone doesn´t push you, you just do not move (See? Limits are good!). We had to make a song or a remix and shoot some video for it, since every song you sent was going to be uploaded to TV Mania´s official Youtube playlist. And from the first moment we started thinking about our franchise project, we all agreed it had to be something related to our local TV and the video had to show our city to the world, but in a “TV Mania” sort of way.

A list of famous phrases from Argentine TV was made and we recorded about 50 at Pablo´s home (he has a little studio of his own there), but ended up using only 9 of those. You can hear the three of us on our track, along with Pablo´s wife, Cecilia, who was very happy to help. We also wanted to include samples of Nick and Warren in our song, so we asked permission to use the audios of the Second Life events to sample the guys and we were very happy to get a green light from TV Mania. There was a precious bit of Nick we were dying to use where he said “TV Mania Buenos Aires”; I mean, we just had to have that, right?

Once we chose the bits of Nick and Warren that were going to be used, we wrote and recorded the samples in English (it is my voice you hear, by the way), and afterwards we began to write the music, which was completely new. We decided not to use anything from the downloaded franchise pack and try to come up with something fresh and original, respecting the TV Mania essence. For the video, the plan was to film different Buenos Aires landmarks and ourselves in what we thought could be TV Mania-esque outfits and colours.  That was how “Just Very” was born.

Here’s the video link to watch for yourselves!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WLnDzsAlDE

Now, as I write and tell you all of this, I get the feeling it doesn´t seem to be that hard, does it? But there are lots of things you need to know how to do in order to make all of this happen. It´s not that easy to make and mix music, operate a camera and film proper video, edit both music and video, and I am not counting the “standing in front of a camera” process which many people may find uncomfortable (with zero budget, little time and no volunteers, it´s you and you alone doing that!). There were many things we had to use to accomplish our goal and I am glad we were such a great team, because I know that I alone could never have done what we did as a group.

Nevertheless, being more than one person doing something together means you have to find a common ground to stand on when you make decisions, and you can trust me when I say that isn´t always a simple task.  For example, when the time of sending the final song to TV Mania came some of us did not want to include the samples in Spanish and some of us did. It took us a LONG TIME to agree on that. In the end, we put it to a vote and decided to send an “Ambient Mix” of our song that didn´t have samples in Spanish. For the video of that one, we simply added some colour effects to the original one and sent both “Just Very” and “Just Very (Ambient Mix)” for approval.

A few hours later we got the news of our videos being up on the official TV Mania Franchise Playlist on Youtube, and a couple of deadlines later (the contest deadline was pushed twice extending it for 2 and a half months) we found out via TV Mania´s Twitter account that we were the TV Mania Franchise Grand Prize winners for “Just Very”.

To this day, we still think it´s a dream….which is why I’ve included this photo (a memento from the Skype session we won with Nick and Warren as result of the contest!)

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Just as Duran Duran likes to do for their liner notes…we’re including a list of what we used:

  • Ableton Live 8
  • Synths: Albino Vst synth/Atmosphere Vst synth/Korg M1  Vst Synth/ Korg wavestation synth/Orange vocoder
  • Electronic drums: 707 sounds/808 sounds/Ez Drummer
  • Guitar: Fx Boss GT8 / digitech rp7 valve/ Steinberger Spirit guitar
  • Adobe Premiere (video)

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Fabiana is from Buenos Aires, Argentina. She´s been a Duranie since 1988 when she was 10 and loves the band, side projects (well, duh!) and mostly all the fan-tastic people she´s met because of them. She has a major in Journalism and Communications and at the moment is finishing her Community Manager & Social Media graduate studies. She works for a private university where she manages an academic department (not as fun as seeing #Duranlive!) and is looking forward for the next Duran Duran album and tour. No need to convince an angry boyfriend to let her go see them live: he is a huge Duranie!

Stress of (and) Contests!

I am 110% stressed.  I admit it.  Last week, I put in about 65 hours of work between my actual job and my volunteer gig.  This week will be much of the same as I have parent-teacher conferences Thursday and Friday, which means that I will be at work for 12 hours both of those days.  Then, I have meetings Monday and Tuesday evening and an all day conference on Saturday.  Normally, this wouldn’t be a big deal but we are leaving for the UK in little over 3 weeks and have SO much to do before we leave.  I spent my entire weekend just getting organized and getting things checked off for work, for my volunteer gig, for my household to keep running and for the upcoming tour.  Needless to say, there is part of me that is really looking forward to December 24th as I will be at my sister’s and just relaxing.  That isn’t to say that I’m not looking forward to our trip because I totally am!  Once I’m there, I’ll be totally excited.  It is the getting ready part that is tough.  🙂

I feel like I’m struggling to keep up with Duranland, which is completely unacceptable.  I haven’t put my scrapbook together for the Chicago show.  I haven’t had a chance to listen to the Katy Kafe that was put up WEEKS ago in October with Simon.  I need some time to be able to watch the Girl Panic video on Tuesday and review it.  (No worries, Rhonda, it will get done!)  This personal craziness has led me to look back to about a month ago when DDM announced its latest contest, which is to design a t-shirt.  The winners would be able to pick out their show of choice to get VIP seats and a meet and greet.  Rhonda and I actually discussed some ideas.  Needless to say, we ran out of time with planning for the Chicago show, doing the initial travel plans for the UK and completing all of our regularly scheduled activities.  (Seriously, can someone find a means of extending the day?  Yes, I know that people in the States got an extra hour this weekend as we set the clocks back.  It isn’t enough.) 

Now, the t-shirt designs have been submitted and voting has begun.  Part of me, obviously, wishes that we could have done one but the other part of me is glad.  Contests in our lovely fandom scare me.  I admit it.  I have seen too many contests turn ugly and ugly, quickly.  There always seems to be concern that the same people are winning and too often it turns to a popularity contest as some members openly ask people to vote for their submission.  Obviously, I’m not judging these people as they just want to win.  I get that.  Yet, to me, this is problematic.  Aren’t the submissions supposed to be anonymous?  Aren’t the winner(s) supposed to be chosen on merit?  Yet, at least, to many within the community that this isn’t how it is done. 

This leads me to wonder why DDM continues to do contests like this.  Why continue to have members vote on each other’s?  Why don’t they take the submissions to the band and let them judge?  Wouldn’t that be better?  Yes, ideally, any community should be able to vote without any problem but that doesn’t seem to be the case, typically, in Duranland.  Then, I always wonder how the contests come to be.  The contests seem to be creative in nature, which, I can understand to a point.  Duran is a band and one that has sought out creativity in themselves and in others.  Yet, in most cases, this creativity is visual in nature and often requiring computers.  They aren’t asking for the finest painting using oils or watercolors.  They aren’t asking for things like writing, either.  I also find it fascinating that they don’t have contests surrounding the usual ways fandom, including ours, expresses itself.  They aren’t picking the best live shot, which many people in the community are fabulous at.  They aren’t looking for cool, new mixes, usually.  Stories that feature them as characters in the best fanfic isn’t a contest.  People aren’t chosen for having the biggest or best collection of ______________.  Knowledge and dedication aren’t chosen for contests, either.  Now, obviously, I don’t have a clue how some of those different expressions of fandom would be judged but it just feels to me that they are ignoring LOTS of members of their fan community. 

Then, of course, there is the question about what people get if they win.  It seems that the easiest thing now is to give tickets and a meet and greet.  That’s cool and all but what about people who don’t get shows close to them?  Are they going to get the people to the show?  Will they pay for the plane ticket, bus/train fare or gas?  At least, this time, people could choose their show.  I also found it interesting that this contest will end long after the North American tour did.  Is there their way of trying to do something for people outside of the US? 

What would you do for a contest?  How would it be judged?  Who would be judging it?  What do you think the winner should receiver?  Should there just be one winner or should there by lesser prizes?  If so, what would they be?  I would love to hear your ideas as I think there could be a lot more to their contests!

-A

Lacking Meets and Greets, Shows and More…

Somedays, when writing this blog, I can step back and be completely objective, an observer of fandom.  Other days, I feel such a part of the fandom that I struggle with my words.  Most days, I fall somewhere in between as I am aware that we are both observers of our fandom and part of it.  Today, I am struggling with the balance. 

As many of you are aware, my partner-in-crime is on her way to the Valley Center show.  I couldn’t be happier for her!  Where am I?  I’m laying on my couch hoping to feel better as it appears that I caught some sort of stomach bug.  Ick.  Obviously, I would love to switch places with her–not that she would with me, though!  Anyway, while I’m happy for her and for everyone else who is going to this show or has been to one of the previous shows, I can’t help but to want to be there myself.  I think this is the natural aspect of being in a fandom, right?  We all want to do every show.  Yet, of course, for a variety of reasons, we can’t or most of us can’t.  While we know that, logically, we still can be envious.  Now, I will admit that I have been rather lucky in terms of the number of shows I have seen in comparison to many people.  However, I know of people who have been to many more.  Does that bother me?  No, on most days, it doesn’t.  I understand that I can’t do it all.  I have responsibilities in terms of work and I have financial restrictions that limit my fandom activities.  That doesn’t mean that it doesn’t bother me, sometimes.  It does.  It is also clear that this bothers other fans, too.  Do you know how many comments we get from other fans from different parts of the world who are bothered by the lack of touring near them?  We get a lot of them!  What about those fans who can’t ever get to a show even if the band is touring in their country?  They, too, get upset about it. 

Another element of this that comes up during touring seasons is meet and greets.  Rhonda discussed VIP packages the other day and many, many people talked about the lack of meet and greets on this US leg of the tour.  A lot of people think that the band should do meet and greets with the money VIP tickets cost.  I have to admit that I have mixed feelings about this.  Now, before I go further, let me be perfectly clear.  We have never had an official meet and greet with the band.  Both of us have “met” them at cd signings but nothing like an official meet and greet.  Yes, we have been fans a long time.  Yes, we have VIPed some.  Do I think that the band should do meet and greets with all of the VIPs?  I’m not sure.  From everything I have heard, they don’t last long and most fans get moved along pretty quickly.  If this is how it is done for a few winners, how long would they last if ALL VIPs got one?  I suspect that they would be VERY short.  I wouldn’t want that.  I have already had that with the cd signing.  Then, there is always a part of me that has a hard time with the money connection.  VIP tickets cost a lot of money.  Should it be just the fans who can afford VIP who get to meet the band?  Then, what about those people who always have VIP?  Should they get to meet the band 10 times a tour?  5 times a tour?  Is that fair?  I don’t know.  Maybe it is since they would be paying for that privilege. 

Then, what about those people who win contests to meet the band?  On one hand, money is no longer the determining factor, which is good, in my opinion.  They requires good luck, however.  I have seen many friends of mine winning things like radio contests to meet the band.  That’s cool.  The only show I’m going to is in Chicago, a city more than 2 hours away from me.  If there is a radio contest, I wouldn’t know because I don’t get Chicago radio.  Thus, in this situation, geography and not money blocks my chances.  I have also seen or heard about people who aren’t really fans playing these type of contests and winning.  That is upsetting, too, as it means that Duranies don’t get a chance to win.  Don’t get me wrong here–I’m thrilled for anyone who wins a meet and greet and excited for people who get to shows I can’t do.  Yet, I’m acknowledging that even those of us who get it, logically, can still feel a little envious, can be upset and that this is normal.  It is normal to wish you were the one at the show.  It is normal to wish you were the one at the meet and greet. 

It seems to me that there is a wide spectrum of what Duran fans can and have done in terms of shows and meeting the band.  There are some fans who have seen one show and there are other fans who have seen well into double digits of shows.  Some fans have never met or seen the guys at all and others have done it a bunch of times.  I’m willing to bet that those fans who have been to a few or no shows feel a little hurt, a little upset watching and hearing about fans who do more.  The same is true for meet and greets.  Do the fans who have been to a ton of shows and/or have met the band a bunch of times feel this way, too?  I think they might.  Again, I think the thing about fandom is that people want everything they can get or else they wouldn’t be fans! 

This post is really just to acknowledge that I believe these feelings exist.  I’m not judging those feelings.  I’m not saying that people should try to change their feelings.  I think, too often, people are encouraged, openly or not, to keeping those feelings to themselves.  I’m sure that someone is going to write and tell me that these feelings are selfish and that they never feel this way.  To those people, I’m happy for you, but it doesn’t change my mind that I think the feelings do exist for a lot of people in the fandom.  Now, tomorrow, I will be better, both physically (I hope) and emotionally and can get back to counting down the days until I’m the lucky one at the Chicago show.

-A

Fairness?

Two things that have never felt synonymous – fairness and the DD fan community (or DDM to be exact).

Recently on the DDM board, there was a contest to go and see Roger at one of his DJ gigs.  For me, the contest was for a gig overseas, and therefore – I knew that there was very little chance I’d be able to scrape together a trip at the last minute, and so I decided not to enter the contest.  The chances of winning are very small, and if I had won (which has never happened), I would have been furious about not being able to go – not to mention the fact that if I’d won, quite literally I would have been taking the opportunity from someone else who was able to attend.  I didn’t pay much attention to the thread about the contest after that, until Jim from GSG Entertainment put up a thread titled “Fairness” on DDM.  Apparently some of the winners of the contest ended up not being able to attend the show, and as a result – Jim felt the need to remind all of us that we should only enter contests if we think we can go.

First of all, this is not a “new” problem.  I know PLENTY of members who enter each and every contest to see if they can win.  Many of them say “I’ll figure it out later if I win”, and when it’s pointed out to them that if they do win and aren’t able to go – they basically have taken the tickets away from other people who can – the response is typically something to the extent of “I pay for membership here, it’s my “right” to enter, and it’s nobody else’s business if I can’t use the tickets.”   Quite honestly, I think this attitude runs pretty rampantly throughout the community.  Our fan community has always been “dog eats dog”, and it’s really kind of tiresome at this point for me.  I love the band, and I love the idea of a fan community, but the game playing that goes on is a huge turn off for me at times.

I responded to Jim’s post – primarily as an assertion that it happens all the time, much in the same way I’ve done here.  The thread is now 5 pages long, so it’s obvious the topic has hit a nerve.  Many post saying that they would never enter a contest knowing they couldn’t go, and many seem to want to debate what is really “fair”.

The subject of people who win multiple contests came up – several believe there should be a limit as to how often one can win a contest.  I would probably agree with this, although I don’t know how much of a problem this really is when it comes to contests for signed CD’s and things like that.  However, I *do* see the same folks winning meet and greets at shows (when you purchase a ridiculously expensive VIP ticket – you enter a drawing for a chance to have a super rushed meet and greet with the band).  Now to be “fair”, I have to say that these days – it could very well be the same people buying VIP tickets over and over again, so of course it’s the same group of people entered into the contest to win.  I only know that during the shows in 2005, there were some “EXTREMELY” lucky people who won multiple times.  If I had that much luck, I’d be buying lottery tickets, that is for sure.   Regardless, even within this discussion, there were more than a few that felt there shouldn’t be a limit on how often someone can win.

Our community is made up of people from all walks of life.  There are married, single, gay, straight, wealthy, poor, struggling….all different people from all different backgrounds, sets of circumstances, and different places all over the world.  Each of us have our own ideals and our own “rules” that we live by.  Where I wouldn’t ever think to worm my way up to the front of a GA show, cutting in front of people who had been standing there all evening – others seem to believe it’s their given right to do so.    Some believe that being fair means playing by the rules, yet others believe you’ve got to take matters into your own hands and make your own luck.  Fairness doesn’t even enter into it.   What is really “fair”, and does it really matter?    Let me know your thoughts!

-R