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Facebook: Duran Related Pages

There is no doubt that social media has a lot to offer when it comes to fandom.  Duran Duran fandom is no different.  For one thing, social media might provide an opportunity to hear directly from the celebrities themselves.  Both Simon and Dom tweeted this weekend, for instance.  For another thing, social media can give fans the chance to catch something they might have missed.  There are endless examples of this, such as posting an interview or performance that aired on TV that people might have missed or might not have access to, depending on where they live.  Social media, specifically Facebook, allows for pages to be created and maintained with a more narrow subject related to specific fandoms.

We (Rhonda and I) have a Facebook page for the Daily Duranie.  We bet that most of you knew that and probably many of you have “liked” it at some point.  Others of you might have been “invited” while still others just read when something interesting pops up in their feed.  It goes without saying that we appreciate each and every person who has “liked” our page as the more people who do, the better our chances are at getting our blog out to others in the Duraniverse.  Of course, we don’t only post about our blog there.  At times, we will post something that fits music fandom or a question to start a conversation.  So, even if you get the blog through email or some other means, I would recommend liking our page, too.

Lately, I have found myself running across other pretty cool Facebook pages that are focused on Duran Duran.  Here are a few that I have found that I think are worthy of a mention:

Duran Duran Rarity

As many of you may know, I have a pretty large collection of Duran clips from over the years on DVD.  I have so much that I figured that I have seen most of the Duran clips that are out there.  Oh no, this page has proved to me that there are a lot more goodies that I haven’t seen.  The page describes itself as a “magazine and video archive,” which definitely suits it.  A few of the more recent videos include an interview from “The Music Factory” in August of 2000, an interview of Simon from Cannes in 1994, and a John Taylor interview from 1993.  I had never seen any of those before.

Your Daily JoSi

You can all imagine what the focus is of this little page.  That’s right.  It is all about everyone’s (or almost everyone’s) favorite Duran band member combination–John and Simon.  While the page may not be updated “daily”, the photos that are posted are always very, very…well…you know.  😉

Devoted Duranies

This page was designed simply for Duranies.  It gets updated pretty regularly with pictures, videos, etc.  I like that there is a mix of media, meaning that it isn’t just all about pictures like many other Duran related pages are as they post videos, articles, etc..  It is cool, too, that the posts combine both new Duran with older Duran.  For example, one of the latest posts features one of the new mixes of Last Night in the City.  Then, a few posts earlier was a performance of the Reflex from 1984.

JT Fans – Duran Duran

John fans, like myself, might be drawn to pages like this one that is specific to a band member.  I do like that this one includes Duran related posts while including lots of John Taylor pictures, .gifs, etc.  I’m sure that there are plenty of pages dedicated to Simon, Nick, Roger, etc., but for some strange reason I find myself going to mostly John focused pages.  Weird.

There are a TON of Duran related pages out there.  I could spend all day just liking them and looking through all of the various posts on all of them.  The ones I like tend to be updated frequently (strangely enough…we update ours daily!).  I also like the ones that offer something that I cannot see or read elsewhere.  Have I found all of the good ones out there?  No way.  Thus, if you have a page or you know of good ones, can you send them my way?!  I think my Facebook feed could also use more Duran!


Crisis Equals Opportunity: The Daily Duranie Facebook

Today has been quite a day. During the summer, Amanda and I have committed ourselves to working on projects together via Skype, and today was no exception. We got online, chatted a bit and settled down to work. That’s when the day was completely derailed.

Amanda went to log on to our Daily Duranie Facebook account like normal, only to find that she couldn’t get into our account. We were locked out and Facebook wanted to confirm our identity…something that has never happened before. It wanted government ID, a birth certificate or something similar. While we acknowledge that Daily Duranie has taken on a life of it’s own….it’s not quite THAT big. We thought we’d been hacked, to be honest.

So, we settled into trying to understand why this happened. In a nutshell, Facebook wants to “encourage” people to only use their real names for personal accounts. This is of course, because they want businesses, public figures, bands, magazines, entertainment entities, authors, etc to create a Facebook Page instead. Pages are more of an advertising type of entity as opposed to a personal account for regular ole folks. Pages are fine, but the main problem is that in order to get your posts widely seen – EVEN by those who follow – you must pay to have the posts “boosted”.  That’s great if you’re a business who has a revenue stream to support such activity, but if you’re a small blog like us?  That’s an issue, and that’s one reason Amanda and I agreed to stick with a regular account, and all was fine until today.  Today Facebook decided that we weren’t getting in. Period. No warning, no measure for helping or allowing us to just move the account to a page, nothing. We could try to appeal (which did not work), or move forward.

So we set about creating the new Daily Duranie Facebook Page, and fretting about all that we’d lost. Maybe none of you realize, but we’re talking nearly FIVE YEARS of hard work. Posts. Pictures. Nearly 2500 friends. Real friends from around the world. The more I typed, fixed profile pictures and cover photos, messaged Duran Duran pages and groups…the bigger the knot in my stomach and throat became. We have put blood, sweat and tears into this blog in a way that no one on the planet can really understand. It has felt at times that for every two steps forward, we’ve taken five backward. Yet, I couldn’t separate myself from Daily Duranie even if I tried, because it’s ME. It’s Amanda. It’s US.  And a large part of the two of us is now in Facebook jail. Welcome to Tuesday, my friends.

As I set about understanding the reasoning why our account – out of all the thousands of FB accounts who go by pseudonyms instead of birth names – was chosen today, I discovered that the only way Facebook really keeps track is if they were told about us. That means that someone, most likely a “friend”, made the point to tell Facebook about us and mention that we’re not a real person. Except of course, we are.

Upset? Yes. Wounded? Sure. Done? Not even close. We’re just getting started.

So instead of working on the other projects today, Amanda and I have been scrambling to get the page together, tell people what happened, we’ve BEGGED Duran Duran to retweet our page link (nothing yet, but we’re hopeful – surely they have to know how much we’ve done for this community in the past five years???), and mostly – WE NEED YOU.

Please, please, PLEASE come to the new page. Like it and then share the link with others. We’ve tried to go to some of the pages and groups we know, but to be honest – there are thousands of groups and pages, and only two of us. We need help. Desperately.  Here is the new link to the page, and we hope to see you there.  Send us a note, post to the page…make us laugh, and let’s keep this party going.

Amanda and I like a good challenge, and maybe this will end up being a good thing in the long run. John Taylor has this saying that is from Eastern philosophy that is on the cover of his (solo) Feelings Are Good CD. Crisis equals opportunity.

We’re going to go with that.


Today’s Date in Duran History – Simon, Simon, Simon…and Dom

Some bands have large fan bases that are happy to get new music. They pay to go to shows, they have fun, and that’s about the size of the fan/band relationship. Then there’s Duran Duran. They have people like me…who are intense (let’s not call it an obsession), long-time fans.  Some of us even blog.

Aren’t they lucky?!?

Originally, I had a “Date in Duran history” all planned out for today, but during some research, I realized we had the date wrong on our calendar. There is a method to what might seem like madness here at Daily Duranie, and so rather than re-run a historical point that we did for this date last year, I came up with my own! The trouble is, it isn’t quite history yet. However, I break rules all the time, and today will be no exception.

Just a day or two ago, I may have casually mentioned that I was nearing the point of resorting to posting videos of Simon’s more “signature” dance moves over the years, using them of course as points of discussion…along with maybe some voting and judgment. (I call it “commentary”) Today I stumbled upon the following video link (linked because of these called “copyrights” that YouTube, and probably the band…insists we follow…imagine that!):

Simon’s short and sweet DD14 update!

So they’re in the “refinement” stage. You know what *I’d* like to know…if I were well, able to ask?? What do they ultimately end up doing with all of the material they scrap? Do they keep it in case they want to return to it at a later point, perhaps for another album or something? I can see a case being made either way. Maybe they want fresh material for each album, and maybe they figure that going back to look at earlier work isn’t exactly the same as starting fresh. But on the other hand, that’s so much creativity. Maybe keeping it all for future reference gets the juices flowing when they need ideas? If “someone” knows, I’d love to hear the answer and reasoning!

Can you imagine the amount of material they’ve scrapped over the years? I’d love to be let loose in that vault (of course that’s assuming they actually keep all of that somewhere)!

But of course, Simon was VERY quick to say he won’t give titles or any information and that we’re going to have to wait. Here’s the thing: I can understand the “No Spoiler” rule. There is something special about hearing a finished song or album for the first time without preconceived notion. Admittedly, it’s been a long time since that last happened for me. Like since hearing some of All You Need is Now. I am very much looking forward to the feeling that comes with hearing brand new music for the first time. Anticipation can be a wonderful thing. That said, hearing absolutely nothing from the band for months on end – or only hearing the things none of us really want to hear, such as: “We’re not going to tour anytime soon – we don’t NEED to tour” or “We’re not sure when the album is coming out, but it probably won’t be until at least 2015.” can be pretty disheartening. So Simon, it’s OK that you won’t share titles or information. I respect that (and I might not necessarily start posting those dance videos. Yet.) But sending us little clips now and again to let those of us who are not in the UK know that yes, you’re still alive and working, and maybe just telling us where you’re at in the whole process, isn’t so bad. It keeps that connection established from the last album going. Many of us have never even been in a studio, and  hearing about the actual process is interesting. It’s funny when you think about it – a lot of fans have been around for over thirty years now and yet there really aren’t many who know much about recording an album or all of the tedious work that goes into the effort. I know it’s commonplace to the band, but for us – the people who care – it’s kind of an intriguing mystery.

If Simon’s little video weren’t enough, I was pretty surprised yesterday afternoon as I checked into Facebook and Twitter between naps (I’m getting over a bad cold and the couch has been my friend this week) to see that Dom Brown is actually alive, and not just an enigma that briefly appears to announce his next gig date on Twitter or Facebook. No, no. Dom showed up yesterday to mention that his wife (I applaud Martha!) has been getting on his case lately (I believe the words “kicking my butt” were used – which makes me like her even more!) to engage on Facebook and Twitter more regularly.

Men are funny. I think they can be far more utilitarian in nature than women. We women tend to be (just a weensy bit) more emotional. We talk. For example, some of the shortest emails I EVER get are from my husband. I will send long, flowing emails to him and I’ll typically get a one or two word reply. (My reply: Really?? You were somehow able to extrapolate ONE thing out of that long email that needed a comment – and a one word comment at that?!) I think that many males, and celebrities are not entirely immune to this and  think that Twitter and Facebook are utilitarian devices only. They are to announce whatever important “thing” is going on – and briefly so. The idea of getting on there to actually chat and get to know people is probably mind boggling. “Why waste that kind of time” That’s why so many resort to only posting their latest sales pitch, their latest gig…and then they run. Fast.

Admittedly, it could be that female fans might be intimidating, downright scary at times…maybe we even “threaten” relationships in that if a wife/girlfriend/significant other sees tweeting or communicating with one specific person going on, she’s undoubtedly going to be concerned. Fair enough. I’m also married. I know how that can be, and I can’t promise that every female fan out there is going to be respectful. For that matter, even I can be cheeky – because it’s fun, and because I don’t actually take it seriously.  Others might, I suppose. But for the most part, I don’t think many of us are out to ruin someone’s life. My point is that we’re not that scary. While yes, there’s always a risk of running into a crazy person here or there, we as fans run that exact same risk, whether it’s with a band member or it’s other fans. You learn rather quickly how to deflect, avoid, and block. My question is how can Twitter be any more frightening than running into the same fans over and over on tour, at the studio, or anywhere else?? At least on Twitter and Facebook you can essentially block the people that scare you. In person, you really can’t.

I guess I’m in the camp that believes it’s important to engage with fans however you can and are comfortable. That last part is key – and I want to make sure that the people who are bound to reply to this post read that last part again. I’m not accusing anyone of misusing Twitter – because I think that everyone has to decide for themselves how to handle social media of any kind. Maybe that’s a departure from how I’ve felt in the past, and I’m OK admitting that.  So what do I mean by “comfortable”? If you’re only comfortable announcing your gigs – then hey, that’s fine. If you’re only comfortable keeping Twitter as a sales tool, then that’s what you have to do. If you’re the type that only uses Twitter to make statements and isn’t entirely interested in the back and forth type of communication that can happen – then that’s how you’ve got to keep it. That might not be ideal, but as I said, we all have our own areas of comfort.

Another issue I see: I don’t think that there’s anything necessarily wrong with replying directly to a fan, even a female fan, if you want; but I also know that not every musician or celebrity is comfortable doing so. I can’t decide if it’s because they’re worried about calling attention to a particular fan, or if it’s because they don’t want to see the “Please RT meeeeee!!!” tweets over and over. The same goes for following fans, I suppose. Once you’ve opened that door, it’s hard to explain why some are allowed through and others are not. I’m not sure that there’s a need to explain actions like that to anyone though. I certainly don’t substantiate the reasons why I’m friends with some people and not with others, but that’s just me. I can’t necessarily say where the line should be drawn – I only know how I handle it for myself. It’s tough thing to find fault with no matter what someone does, and each person has to find their own comfort zone. I have no way of knowing what it’s really like to be a well-known musician, rock star or celebrity because I’m just me: Rhonda from Southern California. I tend to treat people, my friends – whether they are male, female, rockstar or celebrity, pretty much the same. If I follow you on Twitter, I’m going to comment to you as though I think you’re reading, and I’m going to pal around with you as though we’re at least friendly if not actually friends. If that makes me odd, well…then I’m odd, and I embrace the description. I just figure that at the end of the day, we’re all just people anyway.

That’s the longest blog I’ve written in a long time.  Just imagine how it’ll be once the band actually DOES start announcing titles.  I’d better rest my fingers now while I can!







Showcasing Fandom: Diana, Page Moderator and Artist

It has been awhile since I took the time to showcase a fan and how she expresses her fandom.  Since I started this series, we have learned about fans who create art, participate in a tribute band, collect memorabilia and more.  This month, we share Diana’s story through her words and learn how she expresses her fandom, which is through a Facebook page and making banners.

How do you express your fandom?  

I express my fandom through social networking, in this case my page on FB called: Duran Duran on the road.

Duran Duran On the Road

Describe exactly what it is that you do.  

This page is dedicated to all fans who like to see Duranlive pictures.   I´m moderator on this Fan page.

Why did you choice this means of expressing your fandom?

Diana1I choose this way because I love to see Duranlive pictures and I´ve collected many ones recently. I think pictures have capacity to catch your attention and bring to you good and unforgettable moments especially if you went one of DD live shows.

Tell me your fandom story.  When did you become a fan?  What drew you to Duran Duran?

I grew up in the decade of the 80s, so I´ve listened bands from this era since 1982, but I became fan when I was looking for something new to buy and listen to in 1993.   Consequently, Ordinary World, Come Undone and Too Much Information were played a lot on MTV and Brazilian radios.  I had heard of DD before these success, but these songs caught my attention and I decided to buy Decade and The Wedding Album vinyl for Christmas.  Unfortunately, I didn´t find both, as a result my father decided to buy Big Thing and Liberty tapes for me.  I still have them today; they´re still working, believe or not.


Well, because of these different Christmas gifts, I learned to listen DD songs and I started to like their songs.  Obviously, in the same period, I was very curious about who the DD members… I was looking for some pictures on magazines, and “ta da”, I found some DD photos in Letras Traduzidas magazine (this magazine was published fortnightly) and brought pictures and lyrics translated to Portuguese.  Unfortunately, it isn´t published anymore.  Maybe, you’re thinking… her “problems” were solved as she found pictures and she liked their songs.  No way!  I needed to know their names. This part is funny because for me I didn’t have an idea as to who John, Nick and Simon were…. I saw pictures and I tried to guess their names… when I discovered their real names, or correct names I was very surprised!


How else do you participate in the fandom?  Attend shows, meetups, conventions?  Discuss the band on message boards, facebook, twitter?

I participate more on social networking for example: facebook and twitter than meetups and conventions.

What has the reaction been to your expression of fandom?  What do you people think of your work?

My page has had good acceptance among Duran Duran fans all over the world because I think everybody likes to remember good memories through pictures.  It was created on 3rd August, 2013.   DD On the road had more than 200 “Likes” in 2 weeks after its creation, I was very surprised and proud of it.  Consequently, it has encouraged me to upload more and more pictures there. It´s a hard job because, sometimes, you need to pay attention to give credit and other important information.  For example, when and where these shows happened, but I have fun!  Speaking of that: “ the music is between us”.

Do you use your means of expression outside of fandom?

Yes, of course I like to create new means of expression.  For example, I enjoy creating banners or some kind of art that reminds me of DD. I make this only for entertainment; I´ve never thought earning money.


Where and how do you share your expression?  Please show us some of your work, if you can, or where we can find it!

I usually share it on my personal Facebook page:

Can you share something that you are most proud of?

Of course, it´s my pleasure. I have included some arts I’ve created. They´re very simple because I don´t know how to do them on graphics software.  I did all of them with love.

Like a radio tune I swear I’ve heard before…

I don’t think it’s going to come as a big surprise to anyone who has read the blog…or knows me personally…that I have a bit of an issue with patience.

I like things to happen on time. I don’t like waiting, and being kept waiting is even worse. My kids know that if I ask them to do something once…they’d better get moving because if I have to ask again, trouble is coming. Nobody wants trouble, trust me.

So, when I say that I hate Durantime, it is from this vein that the emotion arises. (Yes, you probably should feel sorry for my children.) HOWEVER, I also very much believe my impatience, is substantiated in this case. I will reference a brief conversation I had with my dear blogging partner last night.  I’m paraphrasing because there was a lot more being discussed than just this one thing…but you’ll get the point:

R: So I argued with someone about Durantime, because I dared to say that I think it sucks. 

A: AYNIN WAS shorter.  They toured (did a few dates) in Summer of 2009.  It wasn’t a full tour, but we did see two dates.  (Las Vegas and Costa Mesa, in case you’re wondering as you read this…)  Then in December of 2010, they released All You Need is Now (single).  That is 16 months from the final show that we saw (Amanda and Rhonda) to single.  It has now been 17 months with virtually NO end in sight.

Let’s all take a deep, dejected sigh, shall we?  Do it right now.

Go ahead and argue with Amanda about her dates.  I know better (and she’s right on this one anyway).  So while I would agree that this is all part of the process and they need to take their time to get it done the way they want – I’m really not asking them to rush, I swear I’m not!  There IS a reason why I’m beginning to feel antsy. Even better? It’s OK that I’m starting and maybe YOU are starting to feel that way.  (Although truth be told I was feeling antsy last May….but even I know when I’m being unreasonable!)

All of that aside, I’ve been thinking to myself as to why it feels so much longer this time, and for me, it really does feel like forever since we last heard great things from them, much less saw them in person at a show or even on TV. I made the comment yesterday that I don’t know how I survived before FB and Twitter… but when I think back to the years between Red Carpet Massacre and All You Need is Now, I recognize a few things:

1. I was not in love with RCM, and so for me personally, I think I was almost dreading the next album, assuming that it would be more of the same. I can remember hearing who was producing AYNIN and getting bits and pieces out of the studio, all the while wondering if I’d dislike it as much as I did RCM. I was interested, but a little worried all the same.

2. Amanda and I spent many, many hours writing the beginnings of our manuscript during that downtime between albums. We didn’t start Daily Duranie until September of 2010, so our extra time was spent writing. We were living in our own bubble of Duran, so to speak.

3. On a personal note, I had a toddler in my house back then. Duran who??

4. I never even had the smallest hope of seeing the band on Facebook or Twitter, much less tweeting to them and getting a response of any kind – vague or pointed, retweet or “I’ll answer you directly but I won’t use your name so as not to draw unneeded attention”. <insert smile here> So, it didn’t occur to me to miss what I never had.

Of course, it wasn’t long after we started the blog that John Taylor joined Twitter. He made the wait fun, as did Simon – who I’m not intentionally ignoring here, it’s just that he’d already joined Twitter many months prior (even if he didn’t use the account very regularly). Then Roger joined on Facebook and for a while, he even participated. Where IS that drummer these days, anyway?? The more I heard about the album, the more anxious I became..and of course I was excited at the possibility of seeing the band again too.  I don’t honestly know when Dom joined Twitter, but I loved seeing all of them tweet. It felt like they actually wanted to talk with all of us, see what made us tick and get an overall feeling for what was going on. It made the wait fun. More importantly, it created a bridge between the fans and the band – something we’d never had before.

Naturally, we all get involved in things and can’t make our way to socialize every day. (Although I usually do… but you know, that’s part of the deal with blogging, and it’s part of my personality at this point. It’s the only way I can actually talk to my true friends, the ones I really care about…so I make the time.)  I probably should spend less time on Twitter and updating FB so that I can finish the various pieces to the publishing proposals…. Maybe the band is similar in that they really have to remove themselves from the world in order to get work done…I don’t know.  This blog really isn’t a statement of whether they should be on Twitter, or whether they should be engaging fans, or just sending me emails for that matter. HA!  However, this post is a simple statement of my impatience, and the fact is – we all miss them, whether it is that we miss shows, new music, promotional appearances, tweets and posts, or all of the above.

If I could talk to any of them – and as is typical I must make the statement that I highly doubt any of them are actually reading my mindless drivel – but I digress.  If I could actually speak to them, I’d tell them that while I know among the most asked questions is “When is the album going to be finished?” and that has to be incredibly annoying, I hope they can see that they’re actually MISSED. I know my counterpart never loved having John on Twitter because of any number of reasons that I won’t go into here. I, on the other hand, did.  It wasn’t necessarily because I traded messages with the guy – he didn’t respond to me any more than anyone else, and many times I came online well after one of his much beloved “Tweet-fests” anyway and missed them…but the point was I loved just seeing a teensy snippet about THEM as people. I don’t know how to better articulate that. I know their music. I see their videos, read their interviews, etc, etc.  But back when John tweeted, and even when he would occasionally post things on Instagram – it was kind of like getting a glimmer of him as a real person.  That’s cool.

While my personal favorite band member hardly ever tweets these days (I’m looking directly at you, Dom.) – the one thing I do like about his tweets is that they’re rarely about music or the band. He’ll post what he’s watching on TV (Game of Thrones though? Really??  How about Sherlock?!?) or he’ll just mention that he’s out with his family doing whatever it is that they’re doing at the time.  It’s not like I need or want to know when he’s going to go brush his teeth – but in some basic way it is as though we’re (collectively – the fans) communicating with him as though he’s a normal person, not just a guitar player for Duran Duran.  It makes him more real.

No, I don’t really need to know when the album is going to be finished and they’ll be back on the road…I guess…but it’s also kind of nice to just be like normal people.  Almost like friends, except that we’re not really going to meet for coffee or speak because there’s some weird unspoken “You’re a fan, I’m a rock star” deal.  So bizarre.

I’m WAY over my allotted word count for the day (week!), so I’m going to go back to being unsatisfied and impatient, and you all can go back to whatever it is you spend your time doing each day.  I’ll catch ya all on Twitter or Facebook….well, everyone ‘cept the band I suppose….hope the studio doesn’t swallow ’em whole!


(Yes Amanda, I really did use words from Come Undone to title this.)


Showcasing Fandom: Paula, Page Organizer

It is time to take a break from the intense discussions of the last couple of days.  While I love the discussions and thinking deeply about whatever the latest happening is in our little fan community, it takes its toll.  I’m feeling pretty beat this morning and need a picker-upper type of post.  Thus, I figured it would be good to showcase another fan and show how Paula, in this case, shows off her fandom!  Paula is a fan from Brazil who not only maintains a Facebook page but takes on the responsibility of connecting the Portuguese speaking fans with what is happening in Duranland. 

How do you express your fandom?
In the past, I used to have a newsletter that then turned into a blog that now is a Facebook page.  We used to be called Lonely Satellite and now we are DD Brasil.
Describe exactly what it is that you do.
Along with 2 other friends, we keep our eyes out on the DD world to post news, photos, videos and any other information available.  When possible some of this information is translated into Portuguese; usually the messages from the guys in because these are more on a ‘personal’ note than articles from newspapers.
Why did you choose this means of expressing your fandom?
From the early days, I’ve always liked to share the band with whomever wanted to learn about them.  I used to make tapes for friends to try to convince them they were the best around!  Sharing has always been a part of me.  I used to lend my records and video tapes because I knew this way, more people would hear about the band so having a newsletter, blog and now a page felt like the natural way to go as far as sharing is concerned.  The main principle here being that the band belongs to the world and the more I get the word out, more people will know about the band!
Tell me your fandom story.
I lived for 2 years in the USA (my dad was in the navy and got transferred).  Those two years were between 1982 and 1984…amazing musical years for anyone living up there!  I knew DD from the radio and videos but what turned me into a Duranie were my friends!  It was my high school friend, Lori, who told me YOU MUST SEE DD LIVE.  I already knew a few songs and liked their music so I bought tickets.  April 2, 1984, was the day that I caught myself in a point of no return as far as being a Duran fan.  Listening to a song on the radio and thinking it was awesome is nowhere near seeing them live and thinking…WOW…they are really AMAZING!!
How else do you participate in fandom?
Considering where I am geographically located (Brazil), the band, up until 2011 had only come here for concerts here in 1988 and then 2008.  If I wanted to see them live, I needed to go after them, which I did 2 times in 1999 and 2003 in Atlanta with my friend, Tara (who I met via a chat room we held on Sunday nights in 1997!)
In 2011, the band came here for a festival in the state of Sao Paulo so I had also to travel from Rio to see them and lived on the promise that they would stop back in the near future for a tour, which happened in April/May 2012.  I attended 5 concerts, even going to Buenos Aires to see them.
Apart from concerts, I am always checking groups and pages but I am more active in my own paget than any other.  I am NOT part of the DD community, though.  (Daily Duranie note:  I assume she means DDM.)
During concert periods, I have fashioned a few t-shirts to use during the concerts.  
I know very few people in the area to stage up meeting and from what I saw these don’t work as well in reality as on paper…DD Fans talk more than act!  Trust me, that’s a fact.  (Daily Duranie note:  We have tried to change that here!  😀 )
What has the reaction been to your page?  What do people think of it?
I haven’t honestly asked anyone about it and since pages don’t carry names, I believe few people know who’s behind DD Brasil.  (Daily Duranie note:  They will know now!!)  We do have over 1000 likes and it grows by the minute, so I want to believe we’re doing a good job.
I am also an amateur photographer and I am proud of my work.  I love to photograph the concerts I go to and trips I take.  I like to believe my eyes see what no one else sees and with that, I can share a whole different view of the world!
Do you use your means of fandom expression outside of fandom?
I do have another page regarding dogs and I have photographs spread around the web!
Where and how do you share your expression?
Dog page: On this page, every year, there’s a contest to choose 13 photos for a yearly calendar that I design.
Here are some photos I took when you needed to use your hands to develop pictures:  photos
I like to show things like this:  click here
Can you share something that you are most proud of?
I am very proud of this set of pictures I took:  photo set
These are covers I made for DD Brasil:

And so it begins. Or ends. Or keeps right on going!

I think this might be the first day of John’s vacation. Or at least I hope it is. Seems to me that while the rest of the band has been on hiatus for the past couple months, John has been working overtime.  Maybe it’s not really “work” for him.  One can at least hope that he’s enjoyed the potentially cathartic moments that may have occurred while he has gone to several cities to read portions from In the Pleasure Groove and sign thousands of those books. I did see signs that perhaps the book tour got to be too much for him…anyone who checked out Facebook or Twitter last night may have seen the same.  Judge for yourself.

So I think a vacation might be good here. In fact, I insist. Looks like you both (Gela and John) could use some time off, and maybe even just a bit of sun.  🙂

All joking aside, I know many of my fellow fans out there that have commented, both to me and indirectly on Twitter that they were beginning to bite their nails in a sort of nervous dread for this day to arrive – when there would be little or no “news” from the band, and nothing to look forward to on the not-so-distant horizon.  What now?

I can certainly understand and even empathize with this feeling of uncertainty.  I’m not all that uncertain about the band and what will come next – but there is this sort of uneasiness that comes as a fan.  This is really the first “hiatus” that we’ll all live through on Twitter and even on Facebook to a lesser degree.  John and Simon have done such an amazing job connecting with us on Twitter – and even Roger and John (again even though he is less comfortable) on Facebook that many wonder if they’ll just vanish during the next several months (years?) on social media until they are ready to bring another album into the world again.  The answer of course is that I have no idea. If I did – I’d tell you all.

This problem all stems from the same basic issue: we feel a sense of familiarity with the band and the individual members therein, that is not reciprocated on the same level. This is not a complaint, it is simply reality. Let’s admit it, many of us feel like they’ve embraced the fans this time around in a way we’ve never seen – at least not in recent memory, and definitely not if you didn’t grow up in Birmingham or at least England back in the 80’s. I am not one of the “familiars” that stood outside of John’s home in the 80’s, and to the best of my memory – I never wrote a single piece of fan mail that actually made it to the UK. I am not likely to be someone he could pick out of a crowd, and we’ve never been formally introduced on any sort of level. I think it’s safe to say that aside from my sometimes slightly sarcastic and perhaps even humorous replies on Twitter (or Facebook), he has not a clue about me – and even then – I only mention this because he has retweeted @dailyduranie a couple of times. (to which I am always thrilled. How could I not be??) My point being of course that while I know plenty about John – or at least what he has chosen to share – it’s entirely likely that he knows nothing about me. I might not even exist in his reality. *gasp*  I know.  It’s hard to imagine, but there it is.  We try to chat with them when they’re online – oh believe me I’ve sent FAR more than my fair share of tweets to a certain @dombrownmusic in my day, a few to @SimonJCLeBon and even posted replies to a Roger Taylor on Facebook – but I think it’s important to note that most of above mentioned never really reply….lest we forget.  So now, when it is assumed (on my part) that many if not all will take a break from public life and retreat to the quiet (or semi-quiet, because let’s face it – they’ve all got kids or young adult children and we ALL know how “quiet” that can be!) confines of private life, I find myself entering conversations such as the one below:

Twitter Buddy: “Have you seen _________ online?”
Me:  “No. I’m sure he’s taking a break.”
T.B: “I know, but does that mean he’ll NEVER get online again? I mean, are we just fun to talk with when they wanna sell something?”
Me: “No.  I don’t think it’s that, but let’s face it – they don’t KNOW us. It’s hard to remember we’re not friends, but we really aren’t.”
T.B: “I know. I sound pathetic. I need a hobby.”
Me: “YOU need a hobby!?! I write a blog. That IS my hobby!”
T.B: “Ha ha. Yeah, but at least you have a reason to keep going. I’m bored, and I know how I sound – I send tweets all the time.”
Me: “Oh, I send tweets. I think we all do. We all hope they read them, and that we keep them laughing when really they’d like to commit all of us to the crazy house. It’s sort of the way it works, isn’t it?  The point is recognizing that yes, we really all do sound like crazy people.  I think it’s the people who act crazy and don’t know that they’re acting crazy that would worry me most.”
T.B. “True.  So, you think they’re gonna do those summer dates?”
(note to John Taylor here: I’ll bet you’re sorry you tweeted about MAYBE doing summer dates, especially if they don’t happen. If it is not to be the case, may I suggest taking a long vacation…perhaps very far from any sort of internet connection. Just for your own safety, of course. I worry for you. Although by then, if my calculations are correct, the Duranies will have already begun the process of killing one another off by then….so the problem might already be solved.
Me: “I sure hope so. It’s only November and I’m already bored.  I need to find a hobby!”  (long pause) “Oh wait.”

The good thing of course, at least in my life at the moment, is that as of Tuesday say 11:59pm my time, still before my birthday (…which is a National Holiday in my house. Yes I realize that doesn’t make sense. The kids still buy it, and that’s what really matters if you get my drift…), Amanda will be finished with her campaigning.  Happy Birthday to me!!!  (Ok, so that has nothing to do with me whatsoever.  I’m slightly narcissistic in my spare time.) She’ll be back to Daily Duranie, we have a surprise in store for our blogosphere of readers, then we will work steadfast on finishing the book, and we’ll have Thanksgiving here in the US, and then Christmas and New Years.  I feel the busy coming on, and I welcome the feeling.

So John, enjoy your well-earned break. (obviously that goes for the rest of the band as well, should they be taking a break!) We’ll continue blogging here – I sense there to be a blog about a certain someone’s experience at a signing tomorrow.  We’ll keep discussing that fascinating book of yours, and should you choose to drop us all a line – we’ll gobble it up like the piranhas you know we are, and then we’ll sit, over-think, dissect and examine our way through to the new album.  Good times ahead!


Can they still be icons?

This morning I decided to do something productive that I’d been putting off, and that was going through the RSS feeds that I’d been ignoring since late July. Let me just say – there were thousands, and I have been a very bad girl for not keeping up with my reading. One article in particular caught my eye.  It was written by a fan-blogger, and the blog asked the question “Did Social Media Kill the Rock Star Icon?”

Fair enough. This is a question that Amanda and I struggle answering for various reasons. I remember being ten and falling in love with complete abandon with a rock star or two. Or five. I sent letters, then would trudge up the lawn to my mailbox each day after school to get my reply. As the weeks wore on, I realized sadly, that my confession of love and devotion was no more special than any others that they may have received. (And in adult hindsight I can see that it might have been flat out creepy to them to get a letter from a ten-year-old!)  I never did hear back from any of the “stars” I decided to write as a kid, but that never stopped me from continuing to tape pinups and posters of them to my walls, or from listening to their albums, or going to their movies. In my experience, if anything it made me even more curious about them, made me dream a little bigger, and in some ways – put them up on even taller pedestals.

These days, the scenario is quite a bit different, as Don de Leaumont – the author of the article mentions. “In these days of the internet and various social networking tools like Facebook and Twitter, it seems that the once unattainable rock stars can now be one of your thousands of friends on Facebook as they converse with you via their “wall” or their “tweets.” As a 38 year old fan of music, I find this to be a pretty amazing thing. I mean, it’s absolutely insane for me to think that I can now be in direct contact with the very artists that seemed to be larger than life. Just a couple of years ago, I wrote an editorial called “Twisted Sister Saved My Life.” I posted it on my blog, I went to Twitter and contacted Dee Snider, and within a few hours I had a direct message from Mr. Snider himself telling me just how much he loved my article.” 

I think that most Duran fans can relate in some small way to what Don is saying. In fact, just last night Amanda and I were talking on the phone, and this subject came up.  It wasn’t that long ago – during the days of Astronaut, when the band seemed completely untouchable, unreachable, and not the least bit human to all but the luckiest fans. In present-time, the scenario is different. At least several members of the band are “reachable” on social media. They post on Facebook, they send out Tweets, and many fans out there have met them in social settings away from the stage. Does this really make them any less of an icon to us though?

I suppose to some small degree, when you realize that the band can read tweets and respond at-will, that sure – some of the mystique vanish. Funny though, we’ve been retweeted by John Taylor a couple of times in the past years, and yet Amanda and I still get just as excited. It’s still John Taylor, and we’re still fans. When it happens, you can almost count on the fact that I’m on the phone as quickly as possible to Amanda – sometimes even interrupting her teaching day to share good news. I know Amanda and I still appreciate the music and the whole experience just as much now as we did when we started attending gigs together. Our 20th gig together was every bit as fun (and then some) as our first, although I will say I had less trouble holding the camera steady this time. Mostly. I think both of us still get completely star-struck at times. (Hey, YOU try not getting a little shy and tongue-tied when you’ve got a guitar player right in your face.) I still get giggly, and I still have trouble resisting the urge to look around when I think one of them is looking right at me, because really??? Looking at me? IMPOSSIBLE! Those are moments I refuse to trade, for all of the retweets in the world. I would imagine most fans feel the same, because that feeling is magical. It transports us back to being “tweens” again, if even just for a moment.  It makes us all feel young, beautiful and vibrant….even if you already ARE still young, beautiful and vibrant!  

Don de Leaumont goes on “These days young people don’t even know of a time where talking to your favorite rock star was a truly magical occasion or in some cases just a dream. I can remember standing in the freezing cold outside of the Fox Theater in Atlanta, GA waiting to meet Skid Row after a sold out show. We waited for almost an hour and gave up because we were freezing. These days, Skid Row bassist Rachel Bolan is one of my Facebook friends who have conversed with me a few times. It’s insane for me to think that this is all possible yet there is a whole generation of young people who take this for granted and think that this is how it always was….

I hope that the young people out there reading this realize just how lucky they are to have the accessibility to their favorite bands. Fan letters have now been turned to Facebook posts and tweets which sometimes earn them immediate replies. While this is very exciting a side of me feels bad for them. I feel for them that they don’t know what it’s like to idolize a musician or band so much that they have to use their imagination to think about what they are really like. I feel that they don’t know what it’s like to put a pen to a piece of paper and scrawl out a few pages of words, put it in an envelope, put a stamp on it, and send it off with hopes of getting a reply. Social Media really does seem to have killed the rock god and made them all just normal people with Facebook pages, instant messenger programs, and Twitter accounts. Again, this isn’t a horrible thing. It’s just different and something I never thought I would see.”

I’m not really sure how spot on he really is there. I know John Taylor has a Twitter account and a Facebook page, but that doesn’t make him normal.  Wait, maybe I phrased that wrong.  Sorry, John.  I just mean that he’s still a rock star, because it’s still his CHOICE  as to whether he actually chooses to reply to a fan. For that matter I know Dom Brown has a Facebook and a Twitter and if it even seems like he’s replied in my general direction I’m as giddy as can be, and I know I’m not the only one. No really, I know there’s a few of you out there because I’ve seen you post! Quit hiding!  

My oldest is fifteen, and while she does have a few favorite bands, I’ve spoken to her about this very subject and her feeling is that while Facebook and Twitter can be fun, she’s learned rather quickly that just because the possibility for access to these people exists, it doesn’t mean that everyone gets a reply. She feels that it’s nearly the same as having a piece of fan mail answered back in MY day. I really don’t know. I think it’s far more “immediate” these days, but I see her point. She’s not the type to sit down and write a letter to a rock star, or any kind of star really – and part of that is my fault, I think. She claims it’s “creepy and weird” to exchange tweets or even Facebook posts with someone from one of the bands she likes – she says it’s because she knows she’s only fifteen, and so if they’re willing to talk to someone her age, she has to wonder where their head is at. (Yes, those are really her words and yes…maybe she’s a little smarter than I am…or was at her age….) She watches how I behave now, what I comment on, and she sees what things I tend to cringe over when it comes to fandom, and she’s just learned to behave with a smidgeon more dignity at a very young age. She laughs when I get excited over something I’ve gotten in email or see on Facebook or Twitter. When I told her the story of my love letter to a American gymnastics Olympian back in the 80’s, she openly winced and said “Gross Mom, that is just gross! Aren’t you embarrassed now?” Well, I am now dear daughter. Thanks! (Kids have this fantastic talent of reducing you to nothing, don’t they?) Truth be told, she thinks I’m completely crazy with all of the traveling I’ve done, although she did admit she has great respect for the writing I’ve done and the various things that Amanda and I are currently working on. I guess she can live. For now.

More from Mr. de Leaumont: “Either way, I have to say that it’s a double edged sword for me. One side of me absolutely loves the accessibility that social networking has given me to some of my childhood heroes and other favorite bands. At the same time, a side of me misses that childhood vision that I had of these guys as I looked at their posters on my wall saying, “Someday I’m going to meet you, shake your hand, and thank you for the music you’ve given me. You’ll sign my albums, I’ll get my photo with you, and I will display it proudly.” 

I guess I’m behind, because I still very much have those visions. The posters, too. For me – I still look at the band and feel very much the same. I am a fan and they are still my icons. (but I’m not stealing anyone’s cigarette butts!)  What about the rest of you?  Do you think they’ve lost their “icon” status due to social media?  Let me know – make a comment, drop a line!


PS – I’m not going to steal Amanda’s thunder,  but I hear it’s STILL easier to meet the President of the United States and get a photo than it is to meet any member of Duran Duran…..just saying.  

A Diamond in the Mind Facebook Premiere – The Daily Duranie Review

Happy Monday!

Before we begin our review and reactions from the Facebook Premiere of A Diamond in the Mind yesterday, the blog has hit a milestone that we’d like to share and celebrate with all of you. As of yesterday, our blog hit 100,000 page views!!  That’s amazing, and we have all of you to thank! It was back during the beginnings of our blog in January of 2011, when we heard from someone who came to be one of our most inspirational readers and kept us going when we weren’t sure anyone besides ourselves and a handful of close friends were reading. That person simply encouraged us to keep writing and sharing our story, and we have. We have you to thank, Enitupsar for keeping our spirits up and all of your wonderful support.  We really can’t put into words how much we thank you!  Not sure if you still read, but if so – we hope the blog continues to both entertain and enlighten. (at least we try!)

So yesterday was the big Facebook/Qello Premiere! Did you catch it? Daily Duranie (both of us) saw the premiere as we chatted via phone. Both of us also had our iPads out so that we could tweet & chat. It was technologically very overwhelming, and we don’t mind saying that after the show, we were exhausted, and it wasn’t even our own production! Overall, the technology behind the premiere worked, but not without various bugs and issues. Success in viewing the broadcast depended upon what a viewer was attempting to watch it on (PC, Mac, iPhone, iPad, SmartPhone, etc.) and what type of browser they were utilizing. To begin with, many people were frustrated with a blank screen and continued to refresh until finally a video appeared…a sigh of relief was heard worldwide! Some others had trouble chatting, it was extremely slow depending upon what you were viewing the broadcast from. Many people, including Daily Duranie, noticed that the broadcast was not nearly as clear as we would have expected. At times the resolution would improve, but then in others it was extremely pixelated. The technical reasons (warning: this is being translated rather poorly from “engineer-speak”) behind that include that the information rate coming to your modem might be slow, and also that unlike YouTube, who has servers in every major regional area of the US, Qello likely does not; therefore broadcasting from one central location – bit rate gets lost, and pixelation happens!   Still one other problem was that the commentary for the first portion of the show was unheard by many.  It wasn’t until after 25 minutes into the broadcast that people started figuring out how to get the commentary to work.  Even in the case of Rhonda, once she figured out what to click or unclick for the commentary – it wasn’t until she refreshed the page several times that the commentary finally began to work. Fans are still confused (including us) whether this commentary was truly exclusive for this premiere only or if it is to be included on the DVD. Obviously we would hope it was included somewhere because there was so much information – the show itself, chatting with fans across the world and the commentary on top of it all – one would truly need to view it all more than once to really grasp everything that was happening.

Where to begin with the commentary? It took some adjustment in getting used to the fact that while you’re watching the show, all of the sudden the music would lower in volume and you’d suddenly hear Nick, John, Roger or Simon. The information given was enlightening, in particular during the few moments when they’d speak about the show itself rather than the history of each song. It’s not that we didn’t want to hear the history of the songs of course, but it was more pertinent to the DVD when the commentary was about the Manchester show.  For example, Amanda really liked hearing Nick talk about the heads above the stage and how difficult it was to program them to be in complete sync with the sound. Both Amanda and Rhonda were reminded of how fabulous Leopard is live when they were discussing the decision to have everyone clap in unison during the beginning of that song. (It really is one of the most special parts of the show when you turn around and see that every single person in the venue is clapping together – this song deserves to be PUT BACK IN THE SETLIST!)  Rhonda loved hearing John talk about the ending moment of Rio and that feeling of exhilaration we all feel, that the show can’t possibly end. It was those moments that made the commentary so special and we really wish we could hear it all again.

The show itself of course, was amazing. It reminded both of us of all the UK shows over again and how special each one truly was. We are both anxious to watch the DVD again simply because with so much going on, there were assuredly many subtle moments that were missed due to so much additional stimuli. We need to watch the DVD again in the somewhat peace of our homes.  We need to watch with no one around so that when we squee over John and Dom playing Hungry Like the Wolf right in front of the camera no one threatens to send us to the funny farm or divorce us…well, Rhonda. (*ahem*)

Immediately following the show was the question and answer session. Fans submitted questions to Qello that would be answered by the band. Part of the issue here was that there were no clear expectations set for fans by either the band or Qello. None of us really knew how this portion of the broadcast would be handled. We didn’t know how long the band would be “chatting”, we were unaware of whether this would be via phone, internet, video, etc, nor did we know how many FAN questions would truly be addressed. As such, there were many, possibly unrealistic, expectations on the part of the fans, including Daily Duranie. Basically, several still photos of the band came on the screen in a sort of slideshow type presentation while very poor audio quality voice-over was running in the background.  One had to have their speakers turned all the way up, and even then it was difficult to hear the band – the only way we can really describe this is to have you picture a conference call or even a radio interview heard online. The sound was that poor. So, any thoughts of actually chatting with the band or connecting with them were instantly put to rest. There was an interviewer who asked questions of the band that were handed off to her by another employee of Qello – so there was really no communication between the band and fans as was likely expected by many. During this question and answer session, it appeared that very few fan questions were actually asked – the band spent twenty minutes on phone with the Qello interviewer, and of that time, we believe that there were about 5 questions that were addressed as being “Fan” questions. Of course, there could have been more than that asked – but only 5 were given a fan name and location (of the fan). Many fans were disappointed that so few fan questions were addressed. Naturally, the explanation was given that there were thousands of questions submitted and so only a few could be asked, but that begs the question as to why the interviewer simply didn’t just stick to fan questions. I suppose we’ll never fully know that answer. For the most part, it would seem that diehard fans (and we have to assume that it was mainly diehard fans that tuned in) really didn’t learn anything new from the Q&A, although it was still entertaining. Once again we have to say – if expectations are set in advance and information is given openly, perhaps just maybe, less people would be disappointed. Maybe.

The fan reaction to the entire broadcast varied wildly. Many fans enjoyed the show, as did we, but the Q&A did ultimately seem to fall very flat and ended the “party” on a down note, unfortunately. Plenty of fans commented very publicly that the Q&A felt much more like a recorded broadcast than a live show. We would have to agree, even though we are well aware and convinced that it was in fact – live!  (Note to band: there’s no need to post photographic evidence because those conspiracy theories are going to run wild no matter what. You’re dealing with a very cynic and stubborn bunch!) Our point is simply that due to the band needing to call in and not interact directly with fans, it just felt like we were listening to a radio interview. Not that it wasn’t interesting or that it wasn’t live – it was, but it didn’t have that same excitement as even tweeting with John or Simon when they are on Twitter. It just wasn’t the same. Perhaps for future shows like this, it would be easier for all involved to really do something using Twitter. Nick took to Wendy Laister’s Facebook page (via Wendy of course!) after the show, responding to comments that fans didn’t believe the call was live – and in doing so he also answered a few questions from fans on her page. Just taking the short amount of time to speak directly with fans made all of the difference. Sometimes it’s not all the flashy technology, it’s taking that little bit of time. Five minutes of direct response on social media vs. twenty minutes of a third party interview…it’s worth considering at the very least. One might not need to spend six hours tweeting with fans during an all-day/evening tweetfest party such as Andy Taylor has done in the past, but we have to say the thought counts. There were many fans, however; that chose not to watch the broadcast at all, citing that they were getting the DVD and that they were insulted by the idea of having to pay money to see it online. We can’t even count how many times we have read those very words online in the past week or so. While yes it’s true that one needed to pay in order to see show, the amount of money was so nominal that it would seem other issues must really be involved and we have to ask why, and what can really be done to make a broadcast like this more attractive for fans in the future? Our fear is that there were so many small negatives, but negatives all the same commented about all over social media that there’s no way to get people interested enough to tune in next time…and yet for many yesterday (including Daily Duranie), we would easily do this again.

Both of us loved the show and we thoroughly enjoyed being able to chat with friends from all over the planet while watching. There was a sort of party atmosphere that took place, and while yes – we were definitely overstimulated after it was over, we would do it again in a heartbeat. None of the negatives, even the Q&A, were enough to make us not want to pay for another premiere. Just how often is one able to put aside their daily lives for an afternoon and get together with fellow fans and friends from all over the world and celebrate the band we all love? That’s what yesterday was truly about. Sure, we could really spend a lot of time and energy complaining about our high expectations, and we are sure that many Duranies will do just that – but at some point we have to realize that it was all FUN. The small stuff is really just that, the small stuff. We’ve learned over the past couple of years from writing the blog that Duranies are nearly impossible to please, and we are the most impatient bunch of people on the planet. We recognize that fact in both ourselves and in all of you (mostly).  Yes, we could and probably do spend more than enough time complaining and probably not nearly enough time just enjoying the band…so we’re taking our time right now to thank them.  We had a great time yesterday. We live about 2500 miles apart, and so seeing the premiere together would have been impossible without a plane ticket involved, and let’s be honest here – we try to save those plane tickets to come and see you, the band, perform. Yesterday was the closest we could come to seeing the show together, and we had an excellent time.  We hope the band does it again and that more fans will join in on the fun and leave the negativity at the door because at the end of all of this, the memories we will have will be of laughing and celebrating our fandom with all of you – not of whether the Q&A session was live, how many of our fan questions were answered, or how sharp the resolution really was.

-A & R

Parachutes, Sparkly Pants, Froggies and Diamonds…

How about that Facebook Digital Premiere of A Diamond in the Mind?

Rhonda and Amanda spent their afternoons glued to our computers, cell phones, iPads, Facebook, Twitter and who knows what else watching the premiere.  There is much to be said, applauded, lauded and laughed over….which will be done in tomorrow’s edition of Daily Duranie.  We hope you’ll check it out and laugh with us.

In the meantime, we are putting out a personal appeal – did you see it?  What did you think?  Here is your chance to sound off!  Send us a comment here, Facebook, or Twitter.  We want to hear from you!!

Until tomorrow, may your dreams include sparkly pants, tambourines, leopards, guitar picks, drumsticks and a generous helping of JoSi.

Rhonda & Amanda