If I Listen Close I Can Hear Them Singers

Since Rhonda and I officially ended our part of the tour together (Amanda is going to one more show in Chicago next week), we thought it would be good to really look at this leg of the All You Need is Now Tour as a whole and comment on what people did or would have experienced. Before we dive into the meat of the blog, we want to make sure that we are aware that the band nor their management can control everything related to a tour. In fact, after having planned meetups and other activities, we know how challenging it is to plan for events from far away.

Based on our observations and experiences, this tour was truly affected by the following elements: venues, the crowd, elements within the show itself, and the setlist(s). The venues, in general, were and are a big deal about how the show or tour is going to go. I’m sure the band has their favorite venues for whatever reasons and the fans also have their favorite venues for probably different reasons. While on the surface, the venues appeared to be a variety of styles (small theaters, outdoor amphitheaters, casinos, etc.), there was a common theme. Each venue that we went to and many others we know of on their tour, have seats/tickets reserved. These seats might be comp tickets for high rollers at a casino or subscribers/donors at an outdoor amphitheater or small theater. Thus, a certain percentage of those shows is not made up of hardcore fans or fans, at all. People then are deciding to go to a show because they got these tickets as part of a package or because the tickets were free as opposed to the fans who are just dying to see them live. This is a serious problem. While the seats might be filled, the crowd might or might not be be willing to get into the music. This frustrates the hardcore fans there and makes the band would harder. I can’t imagine what it must feel like for the band to look out into the audience and see 10% or 30% of the crowd sitting down. I know how it feels for us. On one hand, there is an immediate concern that the show will not be as good and there is frustration that non-fans often have better seats than the fans. That’s not okay. Now, I’m sure that some people could say that Duran should be able to get those non-fans involved. Frankly, they often do. They did in Durham but why should they have to work THAT hard, especially since they have been on the road forever. Why add that challenge? Plus, it affects the experience of the rest of us. Beyond this issue with the crowd, another challenge many of these venues provided was the heat. Why play outdoor venues in places like Georgia in August? Is someone trying to make the band suffer? I know that I was horribly hot at those shows and it must have been worse for the band. During the Portsmouth show, for example, Simon was just dripping with sweat. Why not make it more comfortable for the band? I don’t get it.

Beyond the crowd and outdoor/indoor element, some venues have other factors to deal with, which can affect the experience. For example, the stage in Portsmouth is so high above the crowd/ground. I’m sure that people further in the back liked that but those of us in the front (typically the hardcore fans) had no interaction with the band. They didn’t look down at all of us and I can’t blame them. How annoying! Other venues required that the band play shorter sets for whatever reason. What fan wants a shorter set? Then, venue organization makes a difference. Are they selling seats all the way on the right or the left? Are the sections so big that people get shoved in to such a degree that people can’t move, forget about dancing. Are the seats obstructed in some way? It wouldn’t be surprising that our favorite show this tour didn’t have any of those negative factors. Right??

Once the show starts, still other factors come into the picture. This leg has started with a 10-12 minute short film. The film is very obviously artistic in nature and features classical music. We are all for art. In fact, we go out of our way to go to art museums whenever we are in a new town. That said, the addition of this film is a bad one. First, it is too dang long. WAY too long. Most American crowds could handle two or three minutes. The band is asking for them to tolerate 10-12 minutes. Second, I’m willing to bet that most people out there don’t get it. They are there to see Duran, not some art piece. Typically, what happens is that the lights go down and the crowd stands in anticipation. People start clapping and screaming. By the end of the first song in the film, people are sitting back down. By the start of the third song, they are openly annoyed. We have heard, more than once, things like, “I didn’t pay to see this.” Why get the crowd excited to see the band only to not appear? Yes, I’m sure that they might be thinking that anticipation might be a good thing and it is within reason. Besides, this ends up feeling more like the band trying to give culture to the crowd. It is like they want those of us who eat cheeseburgers to appreciate broccoli. That isn’t going to happen by forcing the broccoli on people. Then, the first song doesn’t help improve the mood. Don’t get us wrong…we LOVE Before the Rain and feel like it is a fabulous opener. Yet, it doesn’t provide the energy that is needed to combat the frustration over the film. This again makes the band’s job much harder. Why do that? We don’t get it.

The beginning of the show was different for the first couple of legs as they showed video of people’s tweets using the #Duranlive hashtag. That has now been removed. Why? This kind of activity increased anticipation and focused people’s attention to Duran. It also allowed fans around the world to be able to participate. Why wouldn’t they want to bring fans together like that? One answer could be that the venues aren’t capable to doing that. Again, we would then advocate different venues that can accommodate this type of interaction. Beyond the use of twitter, the heads above the stage are now gone. We didn’t miss those as we didn’t like them to begin with. The videos are basically the same but flowers that light up as background are included. That’s fine but the flowers do nothing. They don’t hold anyone’s interest and doubt they actually make the lighting better. In fact, the lights were blinding, especially in front. That’s not cool either. Then, there is the costuming or clothes. Usually, Duran goes out of their way to have a coherence to their outfits. This time, there are some elements that seem to sort of go together…but overall the feeling isn’t there. Nick looks great, as usual. Roger and Dom are also dressed well. Simon clearly tries to do something with his clothes and then there is John. Oh, Mr. Taylor, what is with those pants? They might be comfortable but they are faded and not very flattering. Ugh.

Speaking of ugh, people always want to complain about the setlists. While we were pleased that they had a number of tracks from All You Need is Now, the rest of the setlist needs an overhaul. It isn’t even so much that they play the same songs every night but the fact that we know what ORDER they will be played. Here’s our simple solution: Let’s say that they are going to play 20 songs. Have 10 hits, have 5 songs off latest album and 5 obscure songs per show but have double that number prepared. The band would then be ready to play any of 20 hits, any 10 new album tracks and 10 obscure songs. Then, each night, the hits, album tracks and obscure songs vary and their location in the setlists change as well. When they don’t change things up, it bothers those of us who do travel. The band should make sure that this group of fans remain wanting to tour. Of course, we want them to consider where in the setlist some songs go. For example, in Portsmouth, Save a Prayer was played during the encore. That is a wrong move. The end should be upbeat and energizing. The end of that show was affected and they should want people to want more when they leave the stage for the night. We do give props to their playing of Leopard in Portsmouth and skipping Come Undone in Atlanta!!!

Of course, while there are lots of elements to the show or tour that we question, at best, or criticize, at worst, there are others that we cheer and applaud. First, we still LOVE Before the Rain as an opener. We like that it starts slowly and builds to an all-encompassing sound that sends chills down our spines. We love it, especially with following up with Planet Earth. It works well to get the audience into it. Of course, the crowd gets into the show the more the band moves around, the more they interact with the crowd by asking them to clap, sing, or reach up, and the more the band explains the significance of various songs. Now, we don’t necessarily want Simon to intro every track but a few during each night works well. For example, after an intro of Ordinary World and how it really saved the band, we have new appreciation for it. Another huge part of the show that everyone we know loves and works to get the crowd into it is the intros of the band. Now, these intros can’t be this is Anna, Simon, Dom, Roger, Nick, John and Simon–just the names. They have to be the ones within the middle of a song and has to allow each person to showcase himself/herself. After all, Duran is about the blending. The intros allow the audience to see what each person really brings to the table. Probably the only interaction that doesn’t work is the cell phone use in the beginning of Save a Prayer. While people love that song, they aren’t into holding up their phones. The merchandise was also an improvement. The styles were cooler as there was a band t-shirt in either gray or red/white/blue of the Union Jack and there were t-shirts of each band member (Simon, John, Nick and Roger). On top of having good styles, the material was a higher quality than we have seen in years. We also LOVED that the tour dates were listed on the back of the band t-shirts.

While this leg might have been different from the previous ones, it still showcased the greatness that is AYNIN. This leg, in fact, marks the end of this era. The band should still be VERY proud about the album and what they accomplished since it was released. There are many songs that should be included in their basic catalog forever. For example, while Ordinary World meant a lot to the band, that’s how many of us feel about the song, All You Need is Now. It remains a very meaningful song to the fans and always will. It really was a message from them to us. We did sway in the moon like we did when we were younger and plan on doing that for as long as we can.

-A and R

25 thoughts on “If I Listen Close I Can Hear Them Singers”

  1. Great summary of your expreiences on your “tour” this go around. I am going to the show in Chicago next week, CAN'T WAIT! Have seen them all 3 times they came through Chicago w/ AYNIN….AMAZING! I will be sad as well when the last song plays on Wed as I know it will probably be a long time before I see them live again, although I said that each time after I saw them and here I am on time #3 never thinking they'd come back thru here 3 times! I am worried about the Ravina venue in regards to how the donors/members of Ravina got better seats than us DDVIP members. You discussed my exact fears in your blog above with similar venues. Those donors/members better like Duran & darn well better NOT be sitting like bumps on a log in the front row once the show starts!!!If they are, so help me I may have to ask if they'd trade seats with me!! It is an intimate setting, under the pavillion, lawn not so much….so I do feel that even though I am in row 21 I will be able to see/hear them well. But we shall see…will let you know next week 🙂 Glad you had a great time & got your front row spot (can't wait to hear how that happened).

  2. I absolutely love your perspective. After waiting 30 years to finally see the guys live, I can honestly say that I wish I had chosen the Atlanta show as opposed to Memphis. Don't get me wrong, they were AMAZING and sounded as fantastic as I could possibly dream (and they're still really, really pretty!!). Memphis Botanical Gardens was simply not the right venue for them and the fans who did manage to get seats in the “supper club” section(as Simon referred to it on Twitter) were treated reprehensibly by the venue staff & the stuffed polo shirts. Those of us with lawn seats had a blast :). I made some great new friends & really loved being surrounded by my people – other Duranies.

    I found the stage lighting to be problematic for any picture taking & the video I took with my iPod just shows blinding lights. :(. And that movie at the beginning….sheesh! I like to think of myself as enlightened as the next person, but I just didn't get it.

    In the end, all that matters is that I finally realized a long held dream that had been out of my reach for so long…and going back to real life really, really sucked :). I can't imagine what it was like for you two! 😉 I have enjoyed living vicariously through your adventures & I thank you for the Duran fellowship!

    Sheli

  3. I will be there in Chicago. You should come to the pre show meet up at 6 at the Market restaurant there within the Ravinia grounds. I wish that I could say that I think Chicago will be great but I don't know ANY fan who has better than like the 15th row. So not okay…

    As for getting front row, it was simple. We waited all damn day. We got in line at 7 am, a full 13 hours before the show started.

    -A

  4. I am always glad when other fans have the same reactions to things that we do. It makes us feel better and less crazy!

    Going back to real life always sucked and I am not going to lie…I keep wishing that there was some way, any way to get to more shows!

    -A

  5. “….it was simple”….HA!!! My back is STILL suffering from that hardwood floor. When it starts bothering me though, I just look at the pick Dom gave me and realize it was worth it. I had fun in line with all of the people we met that day, that is certain! 🙂

    -R

  6. From reading this,seems to me it wasn't the best tour,overall,for all the little details mentionned above.Or are you guys a little tired of being on the road?
    I do agree that Simon's outfits are major don'ts.
    Joel

  7. Hi Joel,

    I don't know – when we talked about it in the car yesterday, it didn't sound that negative, but I have to say that reading it now, it does seem that way, and yet it wasn't (for me). Yes, there were some things that I felt were far better in earlier legs, but the band does so much RIGHT that I think to insinuate otherwise isn't fair. Perhaps we were too harsh, and I do think that at least in part we were tired when we compiled our thoughts.

    I am not afraid to say when I think in hindsight I was wrong, and sometimes it takes a day or two. The real problem I have here is that while Amanda and I compiled the list of points to cover, she and I write very differently, and she was the one who wrote the body of this blog. Not that I disagree with her assessments…but I am not sure at we were very balanced with recalling the good things. I am still learning here, and I will say at the next time I review something, I will take more care to balance what they did right with what I felt could be better. I can't speak for Amanda though, and I don't want to discount her opinions because as I said – we compiled the points together and then she wrote the body of the blog from there.

  8. Glad you are able to see how negative your review sounds after re-reading it. Because I agree with Joel – it sounds like it was an overall disappointment! How terribly sad that you both spent all that time and money to see your favorite band perform 4 concerts within one week (AND you both had 1st row at two of those shows). Yet, you don’t seem to report on many of the good things. You just criticized all the little things.

  9. As I said in the other post, maybe those are John's lucky pants? He doesn't want to get rid of them until the end of the tour. 😀

    If I have one little complaint about John's appearance it's actually his hair(with Simon I hate that white and black jacket, but with him I figure we're lucky if it mostly matches and doesn't involve crocs or bright track pants–we're talking about a man who once thought capri length running tights and a net vest was a good stage look – although to be fair he was very thin at the time).

    Nick's hair should be so fried that it does nothing but stand up in little widely spaced tufts randomly around his head but somehow, the little combover aside, it looks OK. Simon and Roger both have relatively healthy looking hair(not quite as thick as their heyday but the hair that has made it this far still seems healthy with a nice texture:). John's isn't as thick as his heyday either, but I don't know if it's the type of product he's using to keep it sticking up but it's looks brittle. I think what he needs to is to try and find some products that brings out the shine, or make it look a little softer.

    Won't be seeing them this leg of the tour, but if they are going to open with an artsy movie, then they need to open with a bang of a song. I LOVE Before the Rain opening the show, I like how it builds up but a song like that isn't going to work after a long-ish slow artsy movie.

  10. Hi A and R! Much admiration for you two! You expressed a lot of things I was thinking about the shows (Durham this week and DC/Philly on the previous leg of th the tour). Your 10/5/5 set list ideas are right on! I was a little bummed they cut out Careless Memories and Tiger Tiger in Durham. How about if they opened the show with The Chauffeur *sigh* instead of Before the Rain! So happy they did the band intros with Girls on Film this leg because last fall they did it with Notorious; (no play that f$*king bass John!! I think the audience loves chanting that and I love it and expect it at every show).
    Ahh Simon's fashions.. I am not into the Union Jack blazer. I think he looks best when he just wears a t-shirt. John's pants were a little too short, no? But that smile of his immediately made me forget about his pants length. I think the DPAC was a great, intimate and clean venue. The front rows could barely see Roger's face behind the drums but I'm not sure how to fix that. Yes! It is mean to expose the band/crew and fans to outdoor venues in the South in July/August. I cannot imagine that the band has no control over that decision. The only thing the humidity is good for is keeping Simon's vocal cords hydrated! I thought the tour was amazing and it exceeded my expectations. So happy for DD's accomplishment with AYNIN and I look forward to their 2014 album. I will look for you on that tour, Daily Duranie!

  11. I honestly don't think it sounds “negative”. Yes, there are details that we pointed out that we thought could be improved or was better on previous legs. Also, some things like elements with the venues were observed made over the course of going to shows. Perhaps, that should have been a separate post but venues do affect one's enjoyment. Yet, there were things we mentioned that were positive. If we thought it was really bad, we would never plan to do more and that simply isn't the case.

    -A

  12. I love the idea that the pants are lucky ones for John! Then, it might be kind of sweet! As for his hair, I could have mentioned that but I don't want to be too harsh. After all, many commenters here think I'm already too negative!

    -A

  13. It seems that no venue is perfect from every location. I really have decided that the more you know about a venue, the better it is when you go to get tickets.

    I enjoyed the tour, too! How can I not with Duran shows, seeing Rhonda and meeting other great Duranies?!

    You definitely need to look for us next time!

    -A

  14. I agree on the hair situation.Roger looks the best to me,so far,next is Dom.John's hair,I do not know what is going on sometimes,& that aqua-greenish hair earlier on-omfg-.Him who used to be so Hot in the 80s.I'll propose my services,I'm a hairstylist!:)
    Joel

  15. Actually Amanda, I do think it sounds far more negative than it really was. In reading it yesterday I did feel as though we were being way too critical and negative, and yet I have to say I had a fantastic time!! Sure, there were some things that could have been different, and I do feel as though this last leg was tough for them to get through and they were very tired. I still wouldn't have changed too much about the performances themselves. Yes – we had FRONT ROW!! It was a dream come true for me, and I can pretty much forgive anything for the experience I had during those evenings.

    I think that overall, the points we made were good but we should have taken more care to balance them with the great things that did happen during the shows. We didn't do a good job of that and it isn't fair to the band. I accept responsibility for that one. Maybe we were too tired when we talked about everything. Perhaps next tour (and there WILL be a next), we should have that final discussion like we did, but then revisit the conversation and write the blog together a day or two later. Fans can wait 48 hours for us to get our heads together before writing, you know? That way maybe we would be more objective.

    -R

  16. That's fair about taking time but I also think that the “negatives” took a lot more writing than did than did the positives.

    Maybe we should have done bullet points of both to show them. My point was that we DID include some things that went well, show wise.

    -A

  17. That's not a bad idea about the bullet points, and you're right – explaining the negatives did take more writing. Very true. I just think that when I was able to take a step back and read it, I felt kind of bad because the blog didn't feel truly indicative of our experiences, AND I'd hate for the band to read it. Not that they will, but I just thought “Wow. We sound bitter…and we're not bitter!”

    Like I said, this is all a learning experience, and I'm not ashamed to say that I still have a lot to learn. I'm just a freaking fan like anybody else around here, and I don't think my opinion is any more or less important or even correct than anyone else's, even if it's expressed a little more “loudly”.

    I will say one last thing, touring and writing the blog has really been cathartic, and it's forced me to sort of evolve a bit in my fandom, in ways I hadn't imagined. We might not have it all completely “right” when it comes to what we're seeing versus what others may or may not be seeing when they read our blog, but both of us are also open to discussing it all. I can only hope our heart and the sincerity of our intentions comes through when people read.

    -R

  18. I don’t think the band has the luxury of choosing an outdoor venue over an indoor venue that easily. It’s based on venue size and date availability. Unfortunately, in this day and age, the venues they are able to sell out are outdoor theater type venues that average about 3,000-4,000 ppl. Long gone are the days of playing indoor arenas. So, there is a definite method as to why their management picks each venue. Basically, it’s all about the money.

    And, it is summer time. It’s not like they are playing outdoors in the middle of winter in Chicago. So, I find it funny that you guys are complaining about the weather. Seriously, you both CHOSE to go a handful of concerts in the DEEP SOUTH, in AUGUST – come on! It’s kind of ridiculous to complain about that. It’s almost laughable!

    I think maybe you both didn't realize how this blog would come across to others when you wrote it. Maybe you hadn’t fully digested the entire experience just yet before writing. However, if you want to compare venues, that is great. If you want to compare cities, that is also great. But seriously, you can’t blame all of the elements on the band. However, one thing you can blame them for is the annoying short film at the beginning of the show. That is something they have total control over.

  19. Fair enough.

    First of all – the band DOES have the luxury of choosing where they play. There are literally thousands of 3 -4,000 seat theaters in this country. I know this because they play them when they come in the winter. I suspect this had more to do with choosing to play different places for a change, and you know – that's their choice.

    As for us, you are right – we did choose to go to those venues and we weren't complaining for OURSELVES. Amanda clearly says that we could see how uncomfortable it was for THE BAND to play. Simon was literally dripping with sweat nearly 3 songs into their set in Portsmouth, for example. She does say that we were hot – and we were – but her point was that if we were hot and we were just in the audience, how gross must the band had felt? Honestly, we weren't complaining for ourselves, we were commenting on the situation for the band, and to be fair – many many many Duranies that actually live in those areas have been extremely vocal about the fact that they were unhappy that the band chose to play outdoors in the south during the summer. Those aren't MY words, they are the words of many others. I do see your point though, but I just feel that in this case, we weren't being unreasonable – we are/were being the voices for many.

    I think in our very first paragraph, Amanda writes that we know you can't blame every element on the band. ” Before we dive into the meat of the blog, we want to make sure [that our readers know] we are aware that the band nor their management can control everything related to a tour. In fact, after having planned meetups and other activities, we know how challenging it is to plan for events from far away.” I mean, how much more clearly can we say that we know this?

    We were reviewing the tour as a whole though, and regardless of the surrounding elements, Duran Duran is the name on the bill. Everything comes down to that band…fair or not. That's why they get paid, and that's why we go to see them. It's a difficult tightrope walk to write blogs like this and we do our best. Sometimes we get it right. Most of the time, we're told that we fail. We try.

    -R

  20. Wow-I'm amazed at some of the responses to your blog. I don't think you're being overly critical or negative. To get specific:

    1. The art film/short film/10 minutes of hell: I think we all agree it has to go. You're spot on there. I've read recent interviews with the band in which they acknowledge that they play a lot of hits to please the casual fans who come. That's fine, but it's hypocritical to slap an art film at the outset of the show for those same fans. They'd be better served by taking that 10 minutes and adding “Night Boat” or “Secret Oktober” or “Late bar” or even (God forbid) dig something up from the 90s era like “Big Bang Generation.”

    2. Arenas/Venues: It's true that Duran is not going to sell out the larger, 12,000-15,000/20,000 seat venues these days. They did during the Astronaut tour but that was driven by the reunion hype. BUT…there are a ton of options in that 3,000-5,000 range. I live 5 minutes from a small indoor one where they've played several times (Wallingford) and just went to a show last night at another (Foxwoods Casino). They do control that.

    3. Opening song: I love Before the Rain as an opener, as do Rhonda and Amanda (yes, they praised it–read the blog–it was balanced with praise and criticism). I can recall a few other times Duran did this–Finest Hour opened some shows in '05 and Silva Halo opened the '01 Up Close Tour. I hated Silva Halo…but hearing it live changed my opinion of it and the effect was awesome on that tour. Speaking of that tour…

    4. The set list: We all agree the band has to play a lot of hits. We can quibble over the number…but, again, the blog is spot on to question why each show plays the songs in the same order etc. Let's go back to the 2001 Up Close Tour. I saw 3 shows on 3 consecutive nights in March 2001 (2 in NYC, 1 in CT). Duran varied the set each night and actually changed up about 30% of it, while still playing hits. The band was still sort of promoting Pop Trash but they drew also from Medazzaland and The Wedding Album and heavily from the first album. It was awesome…and this was the line up with Joe Travers on drums and the late Wes Wehmiller on bass and of course Warren, Nick, and Simon. So…why can't the current lineup–which has been a live unit for over a half a decade–vary the set list more? And forget the Warren era 90s stuff–I'd be thrilled to see them toss in “Nice” or “Virus” or “RCM” from the 2000s material, to say nothing of the non-singles off the early albums which they should all be able to play…nobody is asking them to be The Grateful Dead and change the entire show from night to night…just to draw a bit more from their immense back catalogue, as their earlier, session-player-dominated late 90s lineup did for pete's sake!

    5. I wish the tweets were displayed too.

    6. I continue to be amazed and thrilled that “Sunrise” has become a crowd favorite. Noticed this at the RCM shows in 2007 and 2008…it may not have been a radio hit but I'm glad it's still in the set. I wish “nice” would be given the same chance. I'm not a huge fan of Astronaut–but love a handful of its songs including those two.

    7. Finally….the blog correctly notes that this is the end of a significant chapter in the band's…and fans'…history. I actually did get a lump in my throat during “AYNIN” last night at Foxwoods. I love the song, I love the album, and so much of it resonates with me and clearly with all of us. It's the end of summer…end of the tour…last night just felt like an ending, but not bittersweet at all–quite the opposite…triumphant, really. (as I write this the band just cancelled their show in NJ tonight–here's hoping Nick gets better and they get to finish the tour and then get some rest).

    Anyway…I think the blog is spot-on. Especially the part about the film.

    –Chris (@Poptrashed)

  21. Hi Chris and thank you…

    BTW – I had a lump in my throat during AYNIN too during Portsmouth. I don't even want to think about that song not being in the setlist ever again. It's come to mean way too much, as has Before the Rain.

    Damn, at this rate I might cry at Hungry Like the Wolf…and we just cannot have that. I've got to pull it together and QUICK!!! ;D 😛

    Thanks so much for your thoughts, tonight is one of those nights that I needed to read them! -R

  22. At least they weren't wearing those awful Red Carpet Massacre uniform-like outfits. I thought those outfits were ugly looking. Funny how John was found to be the one looking least fashionable. He'd probably be the one who's most upset to hear that. Especially since he's married to a (cough, cough) “fashion designer”. Lol!

  23. I have no doubt, as neither Amanda nor myself have experience in that area. We can only comment from the prospective of a fan…and we wholly admit that. Thanks for the article link though, I will definitely read it!! -R

  24. In defense of the art film…. was/is it really so bad? It is not as if the showing of it delayed the band. And, frankly I would rather sit through a 10 minute piece which can be freely ignored than an opening act. This probably sounds crazy, but IMO Duran shows should be *all* about Duran, no other music allowed 😉

    But back to the art film. There were parts I liked, parts I ignored, and parts which inspired many giggles and inappropriate jokes from my Duranie bff & I. But most importantly, no matter how weird or misunderstood or unappreciated… that strange little piece, in it's combined silliness & pretension seems so very, very Duran. Surely that is something we can all agree on =)

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