Maybe you think you’re above it

Why on earth would a fan think it was a good idea to circumvent security, climb up on stage and rush the band?

Last night there was a Morrissey show in San Jose, California.  I had a couple friends at the show. They were excited because previous attempts to see Morrissey (for them) had been thwarted by the dates being cancelled at the last minute.  There was joking (well, on my part anyway) throughout the day about whether he’d actually do the show…because you just never know when it’s Morrissey. (not even going to look your way right now, Duran Duran…)  But by dinner time last night, it looked like yes, it was going to happen.  My friends were excited, and while I’m really not a Morrissey fan, I was excited for them to finally get their show.

Fast forward to this morning, when I see that one of them posted that their show was cut 2 or 3 songs short because of a few absolute MORONS who thought they had the right, above everyone else present, to get up on stage, rush Morrissey and get their hugs in.  The band stopped playing, and the show was over.  Thankfully, I hear that this was during the encore and at the very least – the audience was able to see most of the scheduled show.

I’ve been to two Duran Duran shows where someone thought they deserved an up-close and personal shot at a hug from Simon.  Somehow they managed to get up on stage, and the first time – Dave pretty much bear hugged the girl and took her offstage. The second, Simon sidestepped what he saw coming out of the corner of his eye and once again – trusty Dave grabbed the girl and took her off.

As I’ve sat and thought about people rushing the stage that way before…two main thoughts go through my head. The first being: why would someone really think that getting up on stage with the band would EVER go well?  At the very least it has the potential to ruin the show, appearance, etc. for everyone else, not to mention that it puts the band at risk.  Why wouldn’t that be enough to deter someone?? That’s when I start considering the other sorts of “bad fan behavior” I’ve seen over the years.  “Rules” such as no getting up on stage to grab the band, and not trying to talk your way backstage or into the studio, or any multitude of other “unwritten” rules…are simply that. Unwritten.  People (like me) just assume those kinds of things aren’t cool to do, and so they (I) don’t attempt them. I don’t follow the band home. I don’t try to sneak my way into places I’m pretty sure I’m not supposed to be.  However, there are plenty of other people out there that just assume those “rules” (because dammit – they’re unwritten anyway, and why should we assume they’re really rules?!?) are for other people. They’re not going to let silly ideas such as the thought of being the cause of a show ending early because they got up on the stage ruin their fun.  So what if it seems weird to thousands of other people that they followed a band member home – all they’re asking for is five minutes, right? The trouble is, and this is key: that behavior is typically rewarded.  Maybe that fan who climbed up on stage gets to go backstage. That fan who followed someone home got to speak with the band member….and maybe even got a photo. The point being, while you and I are standing in line at a meet and greet…or just following whatever rules were put in place for whatever function we’re talking about, someone else didn’t bother with those rules.  They found them outside the venue and had five minutes of uninterrupted time and plenty of photos. (which probably weren’t allowed to be taken IN the venue, store, etc.)  They waited outside of the band’s hotel room even though other fans told them it wasn’t cool. They talked their way onto a tour bus, they made friendly with bouncers to get backstage…or any multitude of other things to get what they want. It always happens, and more often than not I’m either annoyed that fans get away with that sort of thing or I’m kicking myself for not doing them myself. Things that you and I might think are the “wrong way” to do things aren’t an issue for someone else, and typically the band (and by “The” Band, I really mean ANY band, but especially this one) rewards that behavior.

Why? Well, I have to assume that for the band – THIS band – any fan is a good fan. They’ve been around a long time now. There’s not so many of us still standing on our feet. Yet, they need and crave that attention we readily give. Yes, I’m saying the band is slightly narcissistic, and I’m sure they’d agree. There certainly is something to be said for being on stage and having people scream for you night after night. Thirty years later and it’s still happening? Oh, you betcha…and so when they go without, they crave that adoring attention, and their egos love the extra boost. So if fans are going to break the “rules” to get to them, the band can’t help but smile. They love it even if it pisses off those of us who have been politely waiting our turn. Our loss, right? You snooze, you lose.

And that’s why it keeps happening, even though typically – it ruins it for everyone else.  But who cares about that really?  I mean, it’s all about ourselves, right?

-R

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10 thoughts on “Maybe you think you’re above it”

  1. I had to chuckle when I saw a Morrissey concert inspired a Daily Duranie post! haha! Colour me impressed! There is a lot of Bad Fan behaviour out there (i.e. we should have put our big girl panties on 30 years ago). But also bad performer behaviour. Morrissey’s habit of cancelling is inexcusable. I don’t care what he says and why the reason. If you are in the business of performing, then perform you should.

    Sure, illness happens, sure, concerts need to be cancelled… but I get the sense that from Moz that its a “I’ll perform if I am in the mood”. Sorry. Don’t cut it.

    In the end, so glad everyone got their dose of Moz… and again, I shall forever be the victim of living on the outskirts of nowhere.

    1. Ok, so the real story is that I’ve wanted to touch on a topic that is found within this blog, but I needed to find the appropriate way to do so…and the fans shutting down Morrissey’s show paved the way. But yes, I’m glad that he actually chose to perform last night for the people who paid to see him. (and yes, I do think at this point with him it’s choice more than anything. I tend to agree that he seems to come up with an awful lot of excuses, but on the same token I really have no idea what his life is like…and maybe his fans can forgive all that. I couldn’t.) -R

  2. It’s a real shame Morrissey is still pulling that nonsense. Back in the early 90s I was at a show that ended early, in a near-riot, and found out from concertgoers that this was essentially part of his act. While it may feed his ego and get him in the limo more quickly, the people who paid to see him get a shortened show and are put in physical danger. I’m scheduled to take my BF to see him in June – the last stop on the current tour – and I’m only partly ashamed to say I hope Moz gets bored and quits the tour by then.

  3. i saw Moz in 1993 and the show was over after 45 minutes thanks to a handful of fans getting on stage. i was PISSED and i’ve never bothered to see him again. he’s not all that great live anyway.

  4. I have a feeling that the original point of the post was lost somewhere along the line. While I did point out the issue with Morrissey the other night – the BIGGER issue was fan behavior in general. Why do fans continue doing things (such as getting up on stage during shows?). I appreciate that Morrissey fans have been doing that sort of thing for a long time now, I do–but the point I was trying to get across was that those fans probably wouldn’t continue doing them if they weren’t “rewarded” in some way for the behavior. Maybe Morrissey isn’t the right example to use – because I think in that case it may actually be that it’s become some sort of a tradition to get the guy to stop his shows. Messed up, certainly, but not surprising.

    I think people really scan our blogs and read whatever they want to read out of them. I can’t tell anyone what they can or cannot take away from what they read, and that’s fine…but I wanted to just clarify that the purpose of the blog wasn’t REALLY about Morrissey stopping shows (which apparently is an ongoing issue)…it’s about fans in general.
    -R

  5. I understood the point of your blog post. Just thought you’d be interested to know that in one case at least, it’s not only encouraged, it’s probably also partially staged.

    That’s more time than I ever like to spend on Morrissey, though, so I’ll stick to talking about Duran if that’s what you’d prefer – far more talented and interesting subject anyway!

    1. I really do appreciate the comments – and I was interested to read what you had to say. I was just very surprised that no one really talked much about the people getting up on stage, since that was the bigger overall topic of the blog, that’s all. We encourage ANY participation on the blog though, so please don’t take my concern (that I didn’t explain myself well) for scorn. 😉 -R

      1. I agree 100% with your initial question – rushing the stage would be the last thing I’d think of doing, no matter who was up there! The closest I’ve come to even wanting to do that was a Prince show in 1993, I think, where he was having security pull people out of their seats and up on the stage to dance. I watched from my sky-high seats and cursed my friend for not ordering us more expensive tickets! 🙂

  6. Wonderful blog, because you touched a nerve. Only I can’t comment on that much, becasue I’m not a concert attender and never had a meet and greet.
    Of course, I can say that if a “hotter” fan got the autograph before me by skipping the rules of the civilized queueing, I guess I’d get slightly irritated.

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